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Re: Simplified or traditional for each Chinese macrolanguage

From: Koji Ishii <kojiishi@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2016 11:13:19 +0900
Message-ID: <CAN9ydbUgSv1nnbnA7m-aktNtuJOVHkQ_qUs5L1iF8=aCg_aKyg@mail.gmail.com>
To: Xidorn Quan <me@upsuper.org>
Cc: John Cowan <cowan@mercury.ccil.org>, 董福興 <bobbytung@wanderer.tw>, CJK discussion <public-i18n-cjk@w3.org>, Makoto Kato <m_kato@ga2.so-net.ne.jp>, 劉慶 <ryukeikun@gmail.com>
Thank you Xidorn, this list is great.

So Literary Chinese and Mandarin are hard to determine? I checked Windows
region/locale/language settings but it doesn't seem to have these in the
list.

Maybe we should handle them as "unknown", so that browsers fallback to use
the system setting?

FYI, Wikipedia[1] already uses lzh", without script.

Richard, thank you, the tool helps!

[1]
https://zh-classical.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E7%B6%AD%E5%9F%BA%E5%A4%A7%E5%85%B8:%E5%8D%B7%E9%A6%96

2016-07-27 10:40 GMT+09:00 Xidorn Quan <me@upsuper.org>:

> On Wed, Jul 27, 2016, at 02:12 AM, John Cowan wrote:
> > > The only thing we currently have no idea is Literary Chinese (Classical
> > > Chinese, or kanbun in Japanese). In mainland China, Simplified Chinese
> > > characters are  used for Literary Chinese,
> >
> > My understanding is that this is not entirely true: that works written
> > in wenyan are usually written using traditional Chinese, at least if
> > they are older than 1919 (the May Fourth Movement), even in the PRC.
>
> Textbooks use simplified Chinese for Wenyan in mainland China.
>
> As an example, Loushi Ming is a poem written in Tang Dynasty. It can be
> seen in Chinese class of middle school in mainland China. This is the
> version used in mainland China [1], and this is the version used in Hong
> Kong [2] and Taiwan [3].
>
> (Another evidence: since Chinese classes generally require writing some
> of this kind of poems from memory, if I learned that in traditional
> Chinese, I should have been able to write traditional Chinese
> characters... But actually I can't. I learned traditional Chinese from
> various reading materials, but I've never written it by hand.)
>
> [1] http://so.gushiwen.org/view_71138.aspx
> [2] http://www.rthk.org.hk/chiculture/chilit/dy04_0401.htm
> [3] http://art.pch.scu.edu.tw/sing/lou_shi_ming.htm
>
> - Xidorn
>
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