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RE: [css3-fonts] Synthesizing oblique, to which direction in RTL and vertical flow?

From: Andrew Cunningham <acunningham@slv.vic.gov.au>
Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2013 08:41:24 +1100
Message-ID: <CAOUP6Kn2KfSHM1yMJBN0pi=y3uMTS26538EEsM_X5AJEwcMkZA@mail.gmail.com>
To: Koji Ishii <kojiishi@gluesoft.co.jp>
Cc: "CJK discussion (public-i18n-cjk@w3.org)" <public-i18n-cjk@w3.org>, "public-i18n-bidi@w3.org" <public-i18n-bidi@w3.org>, "www-style@w3.org" <www-style@w3.org>, Ambrose LI <ambrose.li@gmail.com>, "'WWW International' (www-international@w3.org)" <www-international@w3.org>
Hi Koji, i'd agree although to date font families and generous  font
families are heavily tied to Western European typography. And I seriously
doubt they will  be inclined to change those foundations.

A.
On Feb 5, 2013 4:13 AM, "Koji Ishii" <kojiishi@gluesoft.co.jp> wrote:

> Same for East Asian such as Chinese and Japanese, but that issue is better
> to be discussed in font systems I believe.****
>
> ** **
>
> CSS defines:****
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>   A value of ‘italic’ selects a font that is labeled ‘italic’,****
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>   or, if that is not available, one labeled ‘oblique’. If no****
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>   italic or oblique faces is available, an oblique face can****
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>   by synthesized by rendering the normal face with a****
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>   sloping transformation applied.****
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> so how UAs synthesize oblique face consistently is an CSS issue, but how
> to label a separate font family as ‘italic’ or ‘oblique’ is an issue in the
> font system such as OpenType.****
>
> ** **
>
> /koji****
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* andj.cunningham@gmail.com [mailto:andj.cunningham@gmail.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Andrew Cunningham
> *Sent:* Monday, February 04, 2013 3:48 AM
> *To:* Koji Ishii
> *Cc:* CJK discussion (public-i18n-cjk@w3.org); public-i18n-bidi@w3.org;
> www-style@w3.org; Ambrose LI; 'WWW International' (
> www-international@w3.org)
> *Subject:* RE: [css3-fonts] Synthesizing oblique, to which direction in
> RTL and vertical flow?****
>
> ** **
>
> For some SE Asian scripts oblique and slanted fonts would be a separate
> font family rather than an oblique style of a font family.****
>
> A.****
>
> On Feb 4, 2013 6:25 PM, "Koji Ishii" <kojiishi@gluesoft.co.jp> wrote:****
>
> > I might be wrong but I believe this is language dependent. AFAIK in
> Hebrew the slant would
> > be to the right (i.e., same as LTR scripts); but Arabic and Persian
> slant to the opposite
> > direction, to the left.****
>
> Don't know either, but a page[1] says:
>
>   Hebrew doesn't have them. But people want and would use them.
>   It is not true that "italics that are leaning right is acceptable". Left
>   leaning italics are actually preferable.
>
> The first sentence applies to Japanese too; professionals think "Japanese
> doesn't have Italics," but people want and actually use them. We can't find
> the right answer from the history but need to invent the most appropriate
> answer.
>
> [1] http://typophile.com/node/49385?page=2
>
> /koji
>
> ****
>
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