Re: Item 3.7 , both parts(Was: RE: Implementation status of "Additional Requirements for Bidi in HTML)

Thanks! Done.

On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 9:59 AM, Ehsan Akhgari <ehsan@mozilla.com> wrote:

> Sorry for my delay here.  I filed this bug to fix the Mozilla
> implementation to match the change in the spec:
>
> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=614754
>
> It would be great if someone can update the document with this bug number
> (I do not have edit privileges).
>
> Thanks!
> --
> Ehsan
> <http://ehsanakhgari.org/>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 7:53 PM, CE Whitehead <cewcathar@hotmail.com>wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi, Aharon, all again; here are my votes on 3.7:
>>
>> > 3.7 <option> should support the dir attribute and be displayed
>> accordingly both in the dropdown
>> > and after being chosen
>> > Bug 10819 filed on HTML5.
>> > Proposes specifying that the option element's computed direction will
>> take its dir attribute
>> > (explicit or inherited) into account, and will be used to display the
>> option's text in both the > dropdown and after being chosen..
>> > HTML5 changed to require text from elements generally to be rendered in
>> native user interfaces
>> > in a manner that honors the directionality of the element from which the
>> text was obtained.
>> > Gives a detailed example for the option element, including the correct
>> rendering in the select.
>> > Close bug?
>> ME:  I am less familiar with option but I would say yes}
>> > Bug 10820 filed on HTML5.
>>
>> > Proposes specifying that the option element's alignment via CSS or the
>> align attribute will
>> > affect its display accordingly in both the drop-down and after being
>> chosen. The proposal
>> > is misguided because:
>> > HTML5 no longer includes the align attribute.
>> > This is thus purely a CSS matter.
>> ME  I may be confused; this proposes specifying the alignment via css so I
>> don't understand the problem; and of course I think that if the page author
>> wants to specify text-align for an element he/she should be able to do so.
>> But I leave this to the bidi experts I guess -- .
>>
>> > Currently, no browser lets the text-align CSS property affect an
>> option’s alignment either in
>> > the drop-down or after being chosen.
>> > If text-align, which is “start” by default, were allowed to influence
>> option’s alignment, the
>> > results would be undesirable: by default, LTR and RTL entries would have
>> opposite alignment, which in most cases is undesirable.
>> > After a series of misunderstandings starting with the above, HTML5
>> changed to specify that “User
>> > agents are expected to render the labels in a select in such a manner
>> that any alignment remains > consistent whether the label is being displayed
>> as part of the page or in a menu control.”
>> > Close the bug, or reopen to get rid of this change, which (if I
>> understand it correctly) is only > violated by Mozilla (which aligns options
>> according to their direction in the drop-down, but not > after selection)?
>> ME:  I agree here that elements should not be aligned by default according
>> to their dir attribute.
>>
>>
>> > File a bug on Mozilla to stop aligning options according to their
>> direction.
>> ME:  Yes, perhaps have Ehsan file the bug if he is the only Mozilla person
>> though I hate to keep asking him.
>>
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> --C. E. Whitehead
>> cewcathar@hotmail.com
>> ________________________________
>> > From: aharon@google.com
>> > Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 05:30:30 -0800
>> > To: public-i18n-bidi@w3.org
>> > Subject: Implementation status of "Additional Requirements for Bidi in
>> HTML"
>> >
>> > Here is an implementation status
>> > document summarizing
>> > the status of each proposal. I will continue to update it as the status
>> > continues to change.
>> >
>> > If some part of the status is not to your liking, you are most welcome
>> > to contribute to the discussion on the various bugs and threads linked
>> > by the document while it is still possible to change things. Or, if you
>> > can try to get a consensus here on public-i18n-bidi first.
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> > Aharon
>>
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