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RE: New First Public Working Draft: Additional Requirements for Bidi in HTMLț

From: CE Whitehead <cewcathar@hotmail.com>
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 16:49:06 -0500
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Hi--I have a few more comments on the draft.
 
From: CE Whitehead <cewcathar@hotmail.com> 
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 15:16:33 -0500

 

 
 
>> everybody: The actual location of the Working Draft is
>> http://www.w3.org/TR/2010/WD-html-bidi-20100304/, it's generic address 
>> is http://www.w3.org/TR/html-bidi/.


2.3
Background 

paragraph 2


"Although algorithms for estimating the direction of a string exist (and hopefully will be exposed by the browser as described in Section 2.2 ), they remain heuristic for mixed-script strings"

{COMMENT on English:   "hopefully be exposed by the browsers" is confusing; 
do you mean "declared by," or "made explicit by the browser"?
(sorry I missed this on the last read)}

 

 

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3.9 

Background 

paragraph 1

 

"The direction of a value is set either directly by the user through a "set direction" command exposed by the browser (e.g. via keyboard shortcuts, see Section 3.8 ) or letting page scripts automatically set the input's dir attribute after estimating the direction of the value on the fly. "

{COMMENT on English:  "either" precedes the word "by; 
that means that  "or" must likewise precede "by" in the 2nd clause here  
(both conjoined clauses must begin with 'by' unless 'by' precedes the word "either"--
only when 'by' precedes 'either' is 'by' understood as introducing both clauses without its being explicitly repeated).
also I am sagain having trouble with the word "exposed" and again suggest a different word 
( e.g., 'provided by,' 'made available by,' 'furnished by')}

 

=> "The direction of a value is set 
either directly by the user through a "set direction" command furnished by the browser (e.g. via keyboard shortcuts, see Section 3.8 ) 
or by letting page scripts automatically set the input's dir attribute after estimating the direction of the value on the fly. "

 

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3.10

 

{COMMENT on CONTENT:  + 1; however I wonder if the default left/right alignment of the rtl item in an ltr list, for example, should not be the same as the default left/right alignment of other list items--list items are often words or short phrases and these should line up on the same side of the page regardless of directionality
I think by default; at the same time of course it should be possible to override this default;
or else perhaps this should be left to the browsers who will decide how to implement this based on what people want}


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3.11
The problem

 

"In a browser open on a given page, the UI is made up of two parts: the chrome of the browser itself (e.g. its menus and toolbars), and the page being displayed in the browser. The two parts can be and often are in two different langauges and thus directions. "

 

{COMMENT on Proofreading:  spelling/typo for 'langauges'}

 

=> "languages"
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4.0

 

{COMMENT on CONTENT:  these algorithms are pretty transparent -- that is easy to understand -- again, I see no reason why users cannot be made aware of word-count, and first-strong; so I hope you all will continue in that vein.}

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Best,

C. E. Whitehead
cewcathar@hotmail.com

 		 	   		  
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