Re: Connecting schema.org and OpenReferral

Tricia,

Thank you for your post.

Phil Archer, who started these W3C community groups, referenced schema.org
in his January blog post
<http://www.w3.org/blog/data/2014/01/06/vocabularies-at-w3c/>, and
discussed the ins and outs of it.  I think schema.org is useful in the
context of making vocabularies crawlable by search companies, but it's not
very expressive (they just started adding verbs and are considering
referencing other vocabularies), and each domain needs to govern its own
vocabulary since they know it best; not asking search companies for
approval.  Hence the W3C community groups.

That said, I think it's a great idea to map equivalencies in our human
services vocabularies to schema.org.  Conversely, crawling popular Linked
Open Vocabularies could obviate the need for schema.org over time.

There are many human services vocabularies out there addressing different
aspects of human services, some further along than others.  I'm not sure if
I mentioned to you the work I'm engaged in with the The Alliance of
Information and Referral Systems (AIRS) Linked Open Vocabulary
<https://github.com/airs-linked-data/lov/blob/master/docs/airs_vocab.png>
and build-out, which occupies the same domain space as Open Referral: human
services resource listings.

It's an exciting time as we quickly connect relationships between the
myriad and nascent vocabularies out there, both within the human services
community, and outward to the world around it.  It's almost like the
original vision of the web is finally coming to fruition.  -Eric

Eric Jahn
Data Architect/IT Director
Alexandria Consulting LLC
St. Petersburg, Florida
727.537.9474
alexandriaconsulting.com


On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 10:49 AM, Tricia Burmeister <tburmeister@google.com>
wrote:

> Forwarding this email + document that came to me through Dan Brickley, who
> works on schema.org.  This human services data model seems pretty
> well-developed and I'm wondering if anyone in the group is already involved
> with it?
>
> Thanks!
> Tricia Burmeister | Google Shopping > Product Ontology Linguist |
> tburmeister@google.com |
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Greg Bloom <greg.bloom@gmail.com>
> Date: Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 3:06 PM
> Subject: Re: Connecting schema.org and OpenReferral
> To: Dan Brickley <danbri@google.com>
> Cc: Scott Schwaitzberg <scottjs@google.com>, Tricia Burmeister <
> tburmeister@google.com>, Vicki Tardif Holland <vtardif@google.com>
>
>
> Awesome!
>
> So, here's a recent post of mine about the initiative overall:
> www.codeforamerica.org/blog/2014/08/05/open-referral-initiative-a-standard-for-the-safety-net/
>
> Here's Code for America's page promoting it:
> codeforamerica.org/our-work/data-formats/openreferral/
>
> And here's our 'alpha' model of the spec -- in Google doc
> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/18vdB0DUvBfp6UcYQ78KaMmN3Ei2riThJL48V7TTOHHQ/edit#>,
> and in github
> <https://github.com/codeforamerica/OpenReferral/blob/master/openreferral.md>
>
> As mentioned in the links, this model is currently in a 'Request for
> Comment' period, and our objective is to establish interoperability with
> the schema.org civic services schema, so it would be GREAT to have y'all
> weighing in.
>
> Last note - here's our community's Google group
> <http://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/openreferral>.
>
> Looking forward to the discussion,
> Greg
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 1:36 PM, Dan Brickley <danbri@google.com> wrote:
>
>> On 12 August 2014 18:24, Scott Schwaitzberg <scottjs@google.com> wrote:
>>
>> >  Meet Greg Bloom. He's taken the ball and run with it on the schema.org
>> > stuff for services including getting lots of organizations to adopt the
>> > standard.
>> >
>> > Can you find time to chat with him and provide feedback?
>>
>> Thanks for the intro :) I'd love to hear more. Copying Tricia and
>> Vicki who may also be interested.
>>
>> In particular if you've thoughts on how schema.org could be improved
>> in these areas, I want to point out we recently migrated the site into
>> Github so it's much easier to test out ideas now - see
>> http://github.com/rvguha/schemaorg and nearby.
>>
>> Dan
>>
>
>
>
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