Re: is it necessary to disambiguate (using markup) inline notes,citations and original markup? [was] use of <mark> to denote notes in quoted text

Hi Reineer,

"I agree with Yucca here. The quote should contain its original contents if
it's from a source that allows it (e.g. HTML)"

why?



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SteveF
HTML 5.1 <http://www.w3.org/html/wg/drafts/html/master/>


On 9 September 2013 13:54, Reinier Kaper <rp.kaper@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 9 September 2013 06:42, Jukka K. Korpela <jukka.k.korpela@kolumbus.fi>wrote:
>
>> 2013-09-09 13:27, Leif Halvard Silli wrote:
>>
>>> There is no real-world disagreement about the fact that the the
>>> responsibility for whether one uses <em>, <i> or <font> is the the author
>>> of the current page. That is, in my view, a straw man.
>>>
>>
>> I don’t quite see what are referring to.
>>
>> If quoted text (no matter what, if any, markup is used to indicate it as
>> a quotation) is from a web page, or generally an HTML document, then it
>> seems natural to require that the original markup be preserved, unless
>> there is a technical reason that prevents it. Even if it is deprecated,
>> obsolete, and whatever, it’s what the author of the quoted page has chosen,
>> so in a quotation, it shall not be “fixed” any more than you are allowed to
>> “fix” factual errors or wrong opinions.
>>
>> If quoted text is from another format, such as plain text file or printed
>> book, then I would say that markup be used only when there is an obvious
>> choice in HTML, mainly <p> for paragraphs. For italic, for example, it’s
>> debatable whether we should use just <i>, leaving it to the recipient to
>> interpret it (as a reader of a printed book has to do), or whether we
>> should use e.g. <em> or <cite> or <var> if the author’s intent is clear. I
>> would say that given the semantic mess around <em> and friends, clear cases
>> really don’t exist.
>>
>> --
>> Yucca, http://www.cs.tut.fi/~**jkorpela/<http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/>
>>
>>
> I agree with Yucca here. The quote should contain its original contents if
> it's from a source that allows it (e.g. HTML), otherwise 'best practice'
> should be used to convey the message.
>
> If in a printed source something has been made bold, then it's up to the
> author to decide if it's meant to be <strong> or <b>. Where <b> would be a
> safe default (same goes for <em> and <i>).
>
>