Re: use of <mark> to denote notes in quoted text

Hi Tim,

>"Literary functions in HTML should follow general literary conventions
outside of HTML wherever possible."

agreed

>For HTML, visual and semantic distinction can of course be attained by
nesting an element within the blockquote, although frankly I am not at all
a fan >of using <cite> to refer to an author, but to a work. So we may need
some intermediary element there.

we are paving a cowpath with <cite> (and <blockquote>), the default styling
of cite by browsers should not be a deciding factor. The style is and can
be overridden

"When a practice is already widespread among authors, consider adopting it
rather than forbidding it or inventing something new."
http://www.w3.org/TR/html-design-principles/#pave-the-cowpaths

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Regards

SteveF
HTML 5.1 <http://www.w3.org/html/wg/drafts/html/master/>


On 8 September 2013 21:18, <intelligentdesigner@timgallantcreative.com>wrote:

> I would like to speak to the notion that a blockquote should not itself
> contain the citation reference.
>
> It seems to me that a helpful general rule of thumb for drafting HTML
> markup is simply this:
>
> "Literary functions in HTML should follow general literary conventions
> outside of HTML wherever possible."
>
> I think a lot of things have gone sideways and back and forth in HTML
> markup over the years because this sort of common sense approach has not
> been followed.
>
> Now, what do we find in non-HTML publishing? Do we find the reference
> within the blockquote with much frequency, or is it an absurd anomaly
> abhorred by typographers? I think you will find there is a longstanding
> tradition that the reference can be included within the blockquote at the
> end of the quotation. This is usually set off visually in some way, but it
> is within the block quotation rather than outside of it.
>
> For HTML, visual and semantic distinction can of course be attained by
> nesting an element within the blockquote, although frankly I am not at all
> a fan of using <cite> to refer to an author, but to a work. So we may need
> some intermediary element there.
>
> Tim Gallant
>
>