Re: 4.13.1 Bread crumb navigation - use of right angle brackets

On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 4:24 PM, Steve Faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com>wrote:

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> On 16 October 2013 16:19, Cameron Jones <cmhjones@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 4:13 PM, Steve Faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com
>> > wrote:
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>>>
>>> On 16 October 2013 16:08, Cameron Jones <cmhjones@gmail.com> wrote:
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>>>> On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 2:56 PM, Steve Faulkner <
>>>> faulkner.steve@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> 3) The arrows should not be content but CSS in my opinion.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> the arrows convey direction to sighted users and I think they should
>>>>> also convey direction to other users too, having them in text means that
>>>>> they are announced by AT for example. NVDA announces: (→ "right arrow")
>>>>>
>>>>> list with 4 items
>>>>> You are here:
>>>>> link
>>>>> Main
>>>>>  →
>>>>> link
>>>>> Products
>>>>>  →
>>>>> link
>>>>> Dishwashers
>>>>>  →
>>>>> Second hand
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Is this really a good idea? Isn't this the same problem of mixing style
>>>> with structure?
>>>>
>>>
>>> ? the arrows have a meaning that meaning is conveyed regardless of
>>> style.
>>>
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>>
>> Only within the context of the set of breadcrumbs.
>>
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> which the text label/heading indicates  "you are here:" see the feedback
> from users here: http://davidmacd.com/test/breadcrumb.html
>

It seems like the jury is split based on that sample.


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>> If the set of breadcrumbs is already defined, then the arrows are noise.
>>
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> actual user feedback on this point welcome
>
>

 I'm not suggesting that there is no notification of separator, but that
could be retained within the realm of a screen reader implementation than
requiring every website to include extraneous characters.

Thanks,
Cameron Jones