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Re: proposal: subline element

From: Ian Devlin <ian@iandevlin.com>
Date: Fri, 31 May 2013 09:24:27 +0200
Message-ID: <CAOYOhStMqd3DuTJsZAQvUQXN5w_4RT3AUBMyRxkpOYt5yvfjRw@mail.gmail.com>
To: Steve Faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com>
Cc: HTMLWG WG <public-html@w3.org>
I like this a lot, especially the fact that it can be used both inside and
outside the relevant <hX> element.

I assume that any <subline> element that is not within a <hX> element will
be automatically related to the nearest <hX>?

On 30 May 2013 11:15, Steve Faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com> wrote:

> hi all
>
> I will respond to individual comments when I have time, but here are
> some general comments for now:
>
> As its says on the doc - its an early draft.  Nothing is set in stone
> what is there is merely a sketch of a possibility.
>
> Here is what i think developers want (not necessarily need) anybody
> feel free to add/subtract disagree etc
>
> - A way to indicate part of a heading is differentiated from another
> part as in title/subtitle/alterntive title
>  - A way to indicate that text is not a heading but is closely
> associated with a heading and more specific than a paragraph.
> -  Easy ways to style such content
>
>
> Thinking more on it this markup pattern would fit:
>
> <header>
> <h1>Walking the path of a tornado
> <subline>A journey into the heart of a 17-mile storm</subline>
> </h1>
> <subline>by <span>John D. Sutter</span>, CNN<br><time>published Wed
> May 29, 2013</time></subline>
> </header>
>
> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2461203
>
> In the above example the <subline> can be used either as a child of
> heading or as a sibling. when used as a child of heading it is a
> subtitle, when used as a sibling it is a byline, tagline. <header> can
> be used for grouping if desired.
>
> CSS: example author styling hooks
>
> header subline {...}
>
> header h1 subline {...}
>
> h1 subline {...}
>
> h1 ~ subline {...}
>
> h1 + subline {...}
>
>
> things that are missing from the spec sketch:
>
>  - default UA CSS for subline (aprt from display:block)
>  - Related accessibility semantics (as I have suggested in other for,
> the semantics would need a new role/roles added to ARIA (as there are
> no platform API semantics for a subheading etc.),  which could then be
> used for default implicit semantics for a native html feature.
>
>
>
>
> thoughts?
> --
>
> Regards
>
> SteveF
> HTML 5.1
>
>
> On 29 May 2013 12:16, Steve Faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com> wrote:
> > some people in the HTML community have indicated their interest in a
> > feature that provides a semantic indication of  a subheading,
> > subtitle, alternative title or tagline
> >
> > here is a feature proposal to further discussion:
> >
> > http://rawgithub.com/w3c/subline/master/index.html
> > --
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > SteveF
> > HTML 5.1
>
>
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