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Re: Validity constraints on <section>

From: Leif Halvard Silli <xn--mlform-iua@xn--mlform-iua.no>
Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2013 05:35:40 +0100
To: Robin Berjon <robin@w3.org>
Cc: Silvia Pfeiffer <silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com>, public-html <public-html@w3.org>, Léonie Watson <tink@tink.co.uk>
Message-ID: <20130322053540404505.069a89fc@xn--mlform-iua.no>
Silvia Pfeiffer, Fri, 22 Mar 2013 07:36:17 +1100:
> On 22 Mar 2013 01:40, "Robin Berjon" wrote:
>> On 21/03/2013 15:15 , Léonie Watson wrote:

>>> (screen readers use the region role mapping to report section
>>> elements). That's 216 announcements on a single page.

>> Yes, that's exactly the problem I was thinking of.
>> 
>> So far the only negative feedback we've received is that in
>> books or papers

> I've seen slide templates use <section> for every slide.

In Silvia’s slides use case, the headingless section elements are *not* 
(right, Silvia?) children of any parent section element. (But perhaps 
they would be the children of an <article> element, which should be OK 
- or even promoted.) It should be simple to exempt section elements 
that are not themselves children of other section elements from the 
heading content constraint.

However, the Lockerz.com web site also contains things like this:
   <section>
      <section> … </section>
      <h1> … </h1>
      …
   </section>
And thus, to simply say that a section must contain a h1-h6 element, 
would in fact 'bless' the above construct. Therefore Jirka had a point 
when he suggested that the first child should be a heading. However, it 
seems enough to demand that the heading content occurs *in front* of 
the section children.

Based on the above, I would like to propose the constraints:

  A) Section elements are constrained from having any section
     children unless the section *itself* contains heading content
     *in front of* the first child section element.
  B) When a section element contains section children, then not only
     the section element itself, but also all the section children
     must contain heading content.
  C) Section elements are not allowed to be empty. (Lockerz.com has
     two empty section elements.

I’m not 100% sure that the the B) constraint is necessary - may be A) 
is enough.
-- 
leif halvard silli
Received on Friday, 22 March 2013 04:36:09 UTC

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