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Re: Validity constraints on <section>

From: Steve Faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2013 15:02:23 +0000
Message-ID: <CA+ri+VmjF+p1YoSHnF+LDWO2cOUQmtmnw_AWQek3exAz_CSc5g@mail.gmail.com>
To: Robin Berjon <robin@w3.org>
Cc: tink@tink.co.uk, HTML WG <public-html@w3.org>
>Chatting with Steve, we wonder if the rule shouldn't be: a section must
have either a heading, or aria-label(ledby).

a potential sticking point is use of ARIA in HTML conformance rules, have
been told in past that is a no no


with regards

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On 21 March 2013 14:39, Robin Berjon <robin@w3.org> wrote:

> On 21/03/2013 15:15 , Léonie Watson wrote:
>
>> The lockerz.com homepage has 108 regions (screen readers use the region
>> role
>> mapping to report section elements). That's 216 announcements on a single
>> page.
>>
>
> Actually I'm counting 149 :)
>
>
>  One example on the lockerz.com homepage causes my screen reader to
>> announce
>> the following:
>>
>> "Region"
>> "Region"
>> "Region"
>> "Region"
>> "Region"
>> "Region"
>> "Link graphic W310/**image0013620927118302ukw51"
>> "Region end"
>> "Region"
>>
>
> Yes, that's exactly the problem I was thinking of.
>
> So far the only negative feedback we've received is that in books or
> papers it is common to have something that is logically a section not have
> a title, for instance a dedication or an abstract.
>
> While that's a valid concern, I tend to think that from an a11y it's
> pretty unhelpful. Such section are visually distinguished (say with page
> breaks or italics) but without the visual queues you have to read them to
> know what they are.
>
> Chatting with Steve, we wonder if the rule shouldn't be: a section must
> have either a heading, or aria-label(ledby).
>
>
> --
> Robin Berjon - http://berjon.com/ - @robinberjon
>
>
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