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Re: modified header element definition in HTML 5.1

From: Steve Faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2013 08:11:32 +0000
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To: "jason@accessibleculture.org" <jason@accessibleculture.org>
Cc: HTMLWG WG <public-html@w3.org>
Thanks Jason,

agreed and changed:
https://github.com/w3c/html/commit/a23399093bde39ab7614e466f54fc808155d36a8

with regards

SteveF <http://www.paciellogroup.com/resources/wat-ie-about.html>
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On 9 March 2013 11:22, jason@accessibleculture.org <
jason@accessibleculture.org> wrote:

> Gotcha. But shouldn't that be the case? I'm having a hard time thinking of
> a scenario where, assuming a logical document structure, navigational aids
> in a header wouldn't properly be scoped to the ancestor sectioning content
> or sectioning root. Isn't it expected that a heading or other introductory
> content in a header applies to the content in that header's ancestor
> section? Why would it be different for navigational aids?
>
> Either way, what about something like the following?
>
> "The header element represents introductory content for its nearest
> ancestor sectioning content or sectioning root element. A header typically
> contains headings and navigational aids."
>
> To the degree that navigational aids provide an indication of what is
> coming and a way to access it, aren't they introductory content in a way?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Jason
>
> On 9/03/2013, at 11:55 PM, Steve Faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Thanks Jason,
>
> I thought about similar wording, but didn't use it as it implies the
> navigational aids in the header are scoped to its nearest ancestor
> sectioning content or sectioning root element.
>
> Which I wanted to avoid as I don't consider it to be a necessary or useful
> restriction
>
> any thoughts?
>
> with regards
>
> SteveF <http://www.paciellogroup.com/resources/wat-ie-about.html>
> --
> HTML 5.1 <http://www.w3.org/html/wg/drafts/html/master/>
>  <http://www.paciellogroup.com/resources/wat-ie-about.html>
>
>
> On 9 March 2013 10:44, Jason Kiss <jason@accessibleculture.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi Steve,
>>
>> These various clarifications you're providing are really useful.
>>
>> I'd suggest a slight change to the first paragraph as follows, just to
>> avoid the "a header represents a header" bit:
>>
>> "The header element represents a group of introductory or navigational
>> aids for its nearest ancestor sectioning content or sectioning root
>> element."
>>
>> Jason Kiss
>>
>> On 9/03/2013, at 23:14, Steve Faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > The header element represents a header for its nearest ancestor
>> sectioning content or sectioning root element. A header typically contains
>> a group of introductory or navigational aids.
>>
>
>
>
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