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RE: Proposed extension to HTML5.1 for rollup captions

From: Paul Cotton <Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com>
Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2013 19:41:31 +0000
To: Maciej Stachowiak <mjs@apple.com>
CC: Silvia Pfeiffer <silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com>, David Singer <singer@apple.com>, public-html <public-html@w3.org>
Message-ID: <AB5704B0EEC35B4691114DC04366B37F202C6B07@TK5EX14MBXC295.redmond.corp.microsoft.com>
> I believe in this case, the actual contributors to this proposal are members of the HTML WG.

That is the rub.  You believe this but what about others?  I am certainly willing to be convinced but where is the evidence?

Without firm evidence to this point, I was hoping the easiest way to do this would be to simply have a FSA to reference.

/paulc

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From: Maciej Stachowiak [mailto:mjs@apple.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 2:33 PM
To: Paul Cotton
Cc: Silvia Pfeiffer; David Singer; public-html
Subject: Re: Proposed extension to HTML5.1 for rollup captions


On Mar 6, 2013, at 6:22 AM, Paul Cotton <Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com<mailto:Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com>> wrote:


I am certainly not knowledgeable about what happened in the TextTracks CG.  But Silivia's original email seemed to imply that the feature was a product of the TextTracks CG:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2013Feb/0210.html

>Details:
>In the TextTracks Community Group we have analysed how to introduce rollup captions using WebVTT and the HTML <track> element.
>
>11 different proposals were analysed: http://www.w3.org/community/texttracks/wiki/RollupCaptions .
>
>One proposals was picked and developed further:http://www.w3.org/community/texttracks/wiki/MultiCueBox


If this is the case then why cannot the CG could do a Final Specification Agreement on just this proposal?

I certainly agree that there is no relationship to this matter and a WebVTT FSA.

My preference would be to treat this the same as an HTML feature request from the CSS WG, the Web Apps WG, the I18N WG or the Web & TV IG. We don't usually require such requests to come in the form of a published spec with final IPR commitments. This particular proposal has not been published in any form yet, FSA or otherwise.

I understand the potential concern about circumventing the IPR policy, but I believe in this case, the actual contributors to this proposal are members of the HTML WG.

Regards,
Maciej
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