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Re: Proposal for the deprecation of <blockquote>

From: Heydon Pickering <heydon@heydonworks.com>
Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2013 10:13:34 +0100
Message-ID: <CAJFUXE8jx3MTO=5Xv6TpP1OZq2Tb22+=OsePJzcMYi_4e16UGg@mail.gmail.com>
To: Henri Sivonen <hsivonen@hsivonen.fi>
Cc: HTMLWG WG <public-html@w3.org>
> Perhaps you could explain, in this case, why so many discussions have
taken
> place on the subject for such a long time

>Because the thinking of the semantics for the sake of semantics (as in
>more semantics the better, since semantics are good) as opposed to
>thinking of semantics as a way of getting someone else's receiving
>software to exhibit some commonly useful behavior is a common trap for
>people to fall into.

Fortunately, I do not personally struggle with the concept of semantics re
their consumption by software.

Blockquote's lack of a clear metadata solution is an obvious anomaly
(discussed at great length here: http://html5doctor.com/blockquote-q-cite/and
http://www.projectevolution.com/activity/how-do-you-solve-a-problem-like-blockquote/and
http://oli.jp/2011/blockquote/) and is deserving of a clearer, simpler
solution that makes
easier work of writing and consuming blockquotes for all (human and
nonhuman alike).

Accordingly, a bug has been created to address the issue.

Thank you for taking part in the discussion and making me feel welcome on
the public-html
mailing list.



On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 8:19 AM, Henri Sivonen <hsivonen@hsivonen.fi> wrote:

> On Sat, Aug 17, 2013 at 11:42 AM, Heydon Pickering
> <heydon@heydonworks.com> wrote:
> >>They don't need to. Semantics on that level of detail don't matter. If
> > semantics of that level of detail fall in the forest, no one is there
> > to hear it.
> >
> > Perhaps you could explain, in this case, why so many discussions have
> taken
> > place on the subject for such a long time
>
> Because the thinking of the semantics for the sake of semantics (as in
> more semantics the better, since semantics are good) as opposed to
> thinking of semantics as a way of getting someone else's receiving
> software to exhibit some commonly useful behavior is a common trap for
> people to fall into.
>
> --
> Henri Sivonen
> hsivonen@hsivonen.fi
> http://hsivonen.iki.fi/
>
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