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References to historical definitions of the `cite` element

From: Karl Dubost <karl@la-grange.net>
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2013 09:52:03 -0400
To: "public-html@w3.org >> HTMLWG WG" <public-html@w3.org>
Message-Id: <AD6A5470-0A16-4D2D-8581-C0109137AD9B@la-grange.net>
Just for the record in that discussion about definition of `cite` element (not the attribute)

# HTML 2
========
> Citation: CITE
> 
> The CITE element is used to indicate the title of a book or other citation. It is typically rendered as italics. For example:
> 
> He just couldn't get enough of <cite>The Grapes of Wrath</cite>.
 http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/html-spec/html-spec_5.html#SEC5.7.1.1


# HTML 3.2
==========

> CITE used for citations or references to other sources
 http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html32#phrase


# HTML 4.01
===========
> CITE:
> Contains a citation or a reference to other sources.
 http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/struct/text.html#h-9.2.1

with the following example:

>     As <CITE>Harry S. Truman</CITE> said,
>     <Q lang="en-us">The buck stops here.</Q>
> 
>     More information can be found in <CITE>[ISO-0000]</CITE>.



# HTML5 - CR.20130806
=====================
> The cite element represents the title of a work (e.g. a book, a paper, an essay, a poem, a score, a song, a script, a film, a TV show, a game, a sculpture, a painting, a theatre production, a play, an opera, a musical, an exhibition, a legal case report, etc). This can be a work that is being quoted or referenced in detail (i.e. a citation), or it can just be a work that is mentioned in passing.
> 
> A person's name is not the title of a work  even if people call that person a piece of work  and the element must therefore not be used to mark up people's names. (In some cases, the b element might be appropriate for names; e.g. in a gossip article where the names of famous people are keywords rendered with a different style to draw attention to them. In other cases, if an element is really needed, the span element can be used.)

 http://www.w3.org/TR/2013/CR-html5-20130806/text-level-semantics.html#the-cite-element

plus a few examples given in the specification.



HISTORICAL DIGGING

# 1993 HTML+ 
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> When you want to include a quotation that extends over more that one paragraph, you should use the QUOTE*1 element. Quoted text should preferably be indented, and rendered using a distinctive font, 
 http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/HTMLPlus/htmlplus_26.html

> The ABSTRACT element can be used to give an overview of a document and typically follows a level one heading. It should be rendered in an easily read font, distinct from normal text, and preferably indented. An example is given in the next section.
 http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/HTMLPlus/htmlplus_27.html

> The BYLINE element*1 is similar to QUOTE and is used for information about the author, e.g. contact details and release date. A common convention is to include a hypertext link to a node with more information about the author. Bylines can occur at the beginning or end of a document
 http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/HTMLPlus/htmlplus_28.html

# HTML 3.0
==========

> The CREDIT element is used to name the source of a block quotation or figure. For example:
> 
>     <CREDIT>The Writer by Richard Wilbur</CREDIT>
 http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/html3/credits.html

> The BQ element is used for extended quotations. The tag name has been abbreviated from HTML 2.0's BLOCKQUOTE to the more convenient BQ, and the content model extended to allow the source of the quotation to be credited.
 http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/html3/blockquotes.html


# Wed, 21 Jul 93 14:20:49 BST
> When you want to markup the author/title for a cited work, then HTML+
> expects you to use the EM tag:
> <em role="cite"> a citation </em>
> <em role="author"> the author's name </em>
> <em role="title"> title of cited work </em>
 http://1997.webhistory.org/www.lists/www-talk.1993q3/0252.html

# Fri, 13 Aug 1993 20:11:14 +0200
> Dave and I have exchanged a few mails. I disagreed with the notion of 
> having the semantic content coded as attributes to <p> and <em>. This 
> makes the structure of the DTD very flat and I would rather see it more 
> hierarchical. The <cite> element is a good case in point. I would like 
> to see this as a container with say <author> <isbn> <publisher> etc as 
> sub-elements. More hierarchy, more structure, without compromising the 
> ability to add presentation information in any way.
 http://1997.webhistory.org/www.lists/www-talk.1993q3/0650.html

-- 
Karl Dubost
http://www.la-grange.net/karl/



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