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Re: FW: [NVDA] #809: Support for longdesc in web browsers

From: Charles McCathie Nevile <chaals@yandex-team.ru>
Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2012 13:03:45 +0100
To: "John Foliot" <john@foliot.ca>, "Silvia Pfeiffer" <silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com>
Cc: "HTML Accessibility Task Force" <public-html-a11y@w3.org>, "HTML WG" <public-html@w3.org>
Message-ID: <op.wnh84jupy3oazb@chaals.local>
On Thu, 08 Nov 2012 21:39:10 +0100, Silvia Pfeiffer  
<silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com> wrote:

> It is good to see more support for long description type features in  
> screenreaders.

Yes. But I agree with the NVDA guys - it is a shame that they have to do  
this because browsers aren't picking up the functionality themselves.

> That actually supports the argument made in [1] that we need a  
> screen-reader only long description attribute (such as the proposed  
> @aria-describedat) and >should mark @longdesc deprecated for HTML5 and  
> obsolete when @aria-describedat has arrived.

One of the basic tenets behind my longdesc extensions spec is that this is  
a very minimal thing. I honestly hope that it gets overtaken by events.

On the other hand, I have waited for that a long time. 4 1/2 years ago  
when I raised issue 30 I hoped something better would have already come  
along. If the best we can get is longdesc, it's better than nothing, so  
I'll take it over a promise of some wonderful future that might happen.

(Actually no. When I am done with that, I'll be busy trying to build that  
wonderful future too. But the pessimist in me fears that the longdesc spec  
will prove to have been useful in its own right).

cheers

Chaals

>
> Best Regards,
> Silvia.
>
> [1]  
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2012Sep/0456.html
>
> On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 2:52 AM, John Foliot <john@foliot.ca> wrote:
>> All,
>>
>> Despite the fatigue we all have over @longdesc, we have yesterday  
>> evidence of increased support of this important attribute.
>>
>> Thought I would share.
>>
>> JF
>>
>>
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: NVDA Trac [mailto:noreply+nvdaTrac@nvaccess.org]
>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2012 11:43 PM
>>> Cc: nvda-commits@lists.nvaccess.org
>>> Subject: Re: [NVDA] #809: Support for longdesc in web browsers
>>>
>>> #809: Support for longdesc in web browsers
>>> --------------------------------+---------------------
>>>         Reporter:  rascaal      |       Owner:
>>>             Type:  enhancement  |      Status:  closed
>>>         Priority:  minor        |   Milestone:  2013.1
>>>        Component:  Browse mode  |     Version:  2010.1
>>>       Resolution:  fixed        |    Keywords:
>>> Operating system:               |  Blocked by:
>>>         Blocking:               |
>>> --------------------------------+---------------------
>>> Changes (by mdcurran):
>>>
>>>  * status:  new => closed
>>>  * resolution:   => fixed
>>>
>>>
>>> Comment:
>>>
>>>  Implemented in changeset:main,5605. NVDA will announce the existance
>>> of
>>>  the long description, and you can press NVDA+d to open it. Works in
>>> Gecko
>>>  (Firefox) and MSHTML (Internet Explorer).
>>>
>>> --
>>> Ticket URL: <http://www.nvda-project.org/ticket/809#comment:7>
>>> NVDA <http://www.nvda-project.org/>
>>> A free and open-source screen reader for Windows
>>
>>
>



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