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Re: CP, ISSUE-30: Link longdesc to role of img [Was: hypothetical question on longdesc]

From: John Foliot <john@foliot.ca>
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2012 16:21:06 -0700
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To: silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com, singer@apple.com
Cc: janina@rednote.net, xn--mlform-iua@xn--mlform-iua.no, rubys@intertwingly.net, laura.lee.carlson@gmail.com, mjs@apple.com, paul.cotton@microsoft.com, public-html-a11y@w3.org, public-html@w3.org
Silvia, 

Point of clarrification (that has been made in the past) - attributes cannot take attributes, so there is no programmatic way to link @aria-label to @poster.

JF

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-------- Original message --------
Subject: Re: CP, ISSUE-30: Link longdesc to role of img [Was: hypothetical  question on longdesc] 
From: Silvia Pfeiffer <silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com> 
To: David Singer <singer@apple.com> 
CC: Janina Sajka <janina@rednote.net>,Leif Halvard Silli <xn--mlform-iua@xn--mlform-iua.no>,Sam Ruby <rubys@intertwingly.net>,Laura Carlson <laura.lee.carlson@gmail.com>,Maciej Stachowiak <mjs@apple.com>,Paul Cotton <Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com>,HTML Accessibility Task Force <public-html-a11y@w3.org>,public-html@w3.org 

On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 8:54 AM, David Singer <singer@apple.com> wrote:
>
> On Mar 20, 2012, at 14:46 , Janina Sajka wrote:
>> So, are you so certain we're wrong that you would keep that debate going
>> just on principle? Why not just get the markup specified so that we can
>> move on together to the more interesting list of a11y support features?
>
>
> I am frustrated at the priorities.  We have spent thousands of hours on longdesc, and probably tens on longdesc for video, and essentially none on a whole host of much more real problems than longdesc-for-poster.  If we solve longdesc-for-poster and fail to do anything for video description, video transcript, etc., then the hypothetical user in my example will be able to get what I showed: a beautiful, detailed description of one visually representative or suggestive frame, but still no possibility of learning what the video would have taught them if they had been able to view it.  That's simply wrong. That user has been let down by our lack of focus.


Worse still: if we do not solve the more important questions first,
Web developers will misuse the attributes that are available for the
important use cases that they need to resolve, since they will not
understand how a larger need cannot have been taken care of. They will
misinterpret the attributes.

I agree that we need to resolve the transcript issue at a higher
priority than the poster-alt issue, in particular since many among us
still don't agree that a poster-alt solution is actually required with
@aria-label being available.

Regards,
Silvia.
Received on Tuesday, 20 March 2012 23:21:48 UTC

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