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Re: Encrypted Media proposal (was RE: ISSUE-179: av_param - Chairs Solicit Alternate Proposals or Counter-Proposals)

From: Tab Atkins Jr. <jackalmage@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2012 15:53:32 -0800
Message-ID: <CAAWBYDDg2zbtdsESnh30BeUnJe-q_297urGXLdSBNKrwncAyow@mail.gmail.com>
To: Mark Watson <watsonm@netflix.com>
Cc: Boris Zbarsky <bzbarsky@mit.edu>, "<public-html@w3.org>" <public-html@w3.org>
On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 3:50 PM, Mark Watson <watsonm@netflix.com> wrote:
> On Mar 2, 2012, at 3:31 PM, Tab Atkins Jr. wrote:
>> On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 3:21 PM, Mark Watson <watsonm@netflix.com> wrote:
>>> On Mar 2, 2012, at 2:42 PM, Tab Atkins Jr. wrote:
>>>>  Having
>>>> service-lock-in based on my hardware is just so brain-breakingly bad I
>>>> can't imagine how this even crossed your fingers without them cramping
>>>> from the blasphemy. :/
>>>>
>>>
>>> Either you mis-understood me, or we have remarkably different views of the world ;-)
>>>
>>> I'm not talking about any kind of lock-in, just about products which ship with some apps pre-installed. I hope that soon it will be possible for users to install apps on these products, including web apps. And I hope that those web apps will be able to stream all kinds of video. That's exactly why we need the standardization we propose.
>>
>> You said "[customers] don't expect to be able to watch Netflix on the
>> one without the badge".  How should I have interpreted that?
>
> Ok, what I meant was that customers should not expect to buy a TV that does not support Netflix, plug it into the Internet and *without any other device* access our service. People intuitively understand that the TV needs some kind of 'Netflix-stuff' inside it to be able to access Netflix on the TV alone.
>
> A customer can, of course, get *another* device that supports our service, plug that into the TV, and watch on the TV.
>
> I was pointing out a qualitative difference from the expectation of a customer who buys an mp3 from vendor X and expects it work on any mp3 player, whether or not the player contains any 'X-stuff'

Okay, yes, I pretty clear need a box capable of web-browsing (or
walled-garden equivalent) to do Netflix on a TV.

~TJ
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