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Re: HTML5 design philosophy disconnect

From: Steve Faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2012 22:16:51 +0000
Message-ID: <CA+ri+Vmvf0ThzZha7-QrqGRtra0mSJi2Utm9uV-B6pUQE3-4mQ@mail.gmail.com>
To: Ryosuke Niwa <rniwa@webkit.org>
Cc: HTMLWG WG <public-html@w3.org>, HTML Accessibility Task Force <public-html-a11y@w3.org>
Hi Ryosuke,

> In the grand scheme of things, 11 months is a very short period of time in
> the UA development cycle. We have serious bugs/issues that haven't been
> worked on for 3-5 years despite of the repeated complaints from users and
> developers. If you're so inclined, we welcome your patch.

it is not a question of inclination more a question of ability. I am
not asking that implementers move faster than they do, though it would
be nice, I am arguing that where features are only partially
implemented and that partial implementation is over an extended
period, by not providing such information to developers, specifiers do
a disservice to users and developers.

If the HTML5 spec is meant to only serve implementer's, then it should
not be taken into consideration, but this is clearly not the case, it
also provides normative requirements and informative information to
developers/authors, such requirements and information should be based
on the best real world data available, not on what specifiers wish for
the features.

regards
stevef

On 6 January 2012 21:50, Ryosuke Niwa <rniwa@webkit.org> wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 1:37 PM, Steve Faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> > Just because something is in the spec doesn't mean all UAs get it right.
>>
>> I am well aware of this, it would be good for developers and users, if
>> features that have been in the language for an extended period have
>> their lack of implementation acknowledged.
>>
>> > If some UA doesn't support a particular feature and it's important for
>> > you,
>> > then please contact the vendor. WebKit is open sourced and we welcome
>> > almost anyone to file bugs. I'm sure other vendors would love to get
>> > feedback
>> > from users and authors as well.
>>
>> I do so on a regular basis, here is the bug i filed on this issue for
>> chrome, back in Feb 2011.
>> http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=71933
>
>
> In the grand scheme of things, 11 months is a very short period of time in
> the UA development cycle. We have serious bugs/issues that haven't been
> worked on for 3-5 years despite of the repeated complaints from users and
> developers. If you're so inclined, we welcome your patch.
>
> - Ryosuke
>



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Steve Faulkner
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