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[Bug 20198] New: Formally define that polyglot can be extended

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Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2012 05:36:31 +0000
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https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=20198

            Bug ID: 20198
           Summary: Formally define that polyglot can be extended
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: HTML WG
           Version: unspecified
          Hardware: PC
               URL: http://www.w3.org/TR/html-polyglot/#introduction
                OS: All
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P2
         Component: HTML/XHTML Compatibility Authoring Guide (ed: Eliot
                    Graff)
          Assignee: eliotgra@microsoft.com
          Reporter: xn--mlform-iua@xn--mlform-iua.no
        QA Contact: public-html-bugzilla@w3.org
                CC: eliotgra@microsoft.com, mike@w3.org,
                    public-html-wg-issue-tracking@w3.org,
                    public-html@w3.org

See: http://www.w3.org/mid/20121130201051140186.fa51de03@xn--mlform-iua.no

Issue: the XML/HTML task force came to the, in my view, incorrect conclusion
that polyglot markup cannot be extended. 

On the question "2.4 How can islands of XML be embedded in HTML?", the group
concluded that polyglot markup, for pure validation reasons, was no aid:

"Note also that polyglot markup is not an aid here as it forbids arbitrary XML
content from the document."

See: http://www.w3.org/TR/html-xml-tf-report/#uc04

But this conclusion, which sounds like thinking from the era of DTD-based
XHTML, seems just as correct and as it is gravely wrong.

Because the thing is that HTML5 itself cannot be extended. Or, it can be
extended. But then it is not HTML5 anymore. (Though - ah - there is a
difference, when I think about it, between being extended via applicable spec
and be extended by some extra spec.)

So, perhaps say something like this - as an informative note somewhere: 

Polyglot markup, itself being HTML5, supports extensiblity according to the
rules that HTML5 draws up
<http://www.w3.org/TR/html5/infrastructure.html#extensibility>,  but the
extension must pay attention to fullfilling the polyglot principles. Also, it
should probably be said that that polyglot markup stops being polyglot markup,
in the formal sense, in the moment the markup stops conforming to HTML5. (If
there are some extension methods that shoud definitely be ruled out as not
polyglot, then of course it would be fine to mention it.) And, also - being
XHTML5, it could - on a postive note - be fine to say that polyglot markup can
be easily extended when or if it is served as applixation/xhtml+xml.

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