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Re: Issue #134 Tab states updated proposal

From: Steve Faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 11:53:44 +0000
Message-ID: <CA+ri+Vk-0ReMKwMkY8t-NhKNZcb6hEZ0FLT3AzGcEHKjFUj=_g@mail.gmail.com>
To: "Tab Atkins Jr." <jackalmage@gmail.com>
Cc: HTMLWG WG <public-html@w3.org>
Hi Tab, rereading your CP:

you state

"This is fundamentally a CSS issue."

"The stated problem should probably be solved with CSS, as it is an
issue of presentation."

>From an accessibility perspective this does not seem to be the case [1]

Most accessibility APIs have distinct roles for tab, tabpanel and tablist
and most platforms have distinct display features associated with
tab/tabpanel/tablists and also distinct keyboard interactions.

Can you put a little more 'meat on the bone' as to why a fairly ubiquitous
interface design pattern with established semantics and interaction
behaviours should not be considered as something worthy of supporting as a
HTML feature?


[1] http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/aria-implementation/#mapping_role_table


regards
Stevef

On 16 November 2011 11:25, Steve Faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Tab this ones for you (not Jonas)
>
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>
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>> Jason has recently updated the tab states proposal [1] as you are the
>> author of the counter proposal [2]
>> You may want to comment on the changes and adjust your proposal in
>> response
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>> [1]
>> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/ChangeProposals/tablist_and_tab_states_for_menu_and_command_elements
>> [2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2011Jul/0235.html
>> --
>> with regards
>>
>> Steve Faulkner
>> Technical Director - TPG
>>
>> www.paciellogroup.com | www.HTML5accessibility.com |
>> www.twitter.com/stevefaulkner
>> HTML5: Techniques for providing useful text alternatives -
>> dev.w3.org/html5/alt-techniques/
>> Web Accessibility Toolbar - www.paciellogroup.com/resources/wat-ie-about.html
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> --
> with regards
>
> Steve Faulkner
> Technical Director - TPG
>
> www.paciellogroup.com | www.HTML5accessibility.com |
> www.twitter.com/stevefaulkner
> HTML5: Techniques for providing useful text alternatives -
> dev.w3.org/html5/alt-techniques/
> Web Accessibility Toolbar - www.paciellogroup.com/resources/wat-ie-about.html
>
>
>


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with regards

Steve Faulkner
Technical Director - TPG

www.paciellogroup.com | www.HTML5accessibility.com |
www.twitter.com/stevefaulkner
HTML5: Techniques for providing useful text alternatives -
dev.w3.org/html5/alt-techniques/
Web Accessibility Toolbar - www.paciellogroup.com/resources/wat-ie-about.html
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