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[Bug 12990] New: The footer element (Sections, Elements of HTML). Request for clarification. Re: Interaction of <blockquote> with the prohibition on nested <footer>s. "When the footer element contains entire sections, they represent appendices, indexes, long colophons, ve

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Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 09:46:44 +0000
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http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=12990

           Summary: The footer element (Sections, Elements of HTML).
                    Request for clarification. Re: Interaction of
                    <blockquote> with the prohibition on nested <footer>s.
                    "When the footer element contains entire sections,
                    they represent appendices, indexes, long colophons, ve
           Product: HTML WG
           Version: unspecified
          Platform: Other
               URL: http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/#top
        OS/Version: other
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: HTML5 spec (editor: Ian Hickson)
        AssignedTo: ian@hixie.ch
        ReportedBy: contributor@whatwg.org
         QAContact: public-html-bugzilla@w3.org
                CC: mike@w3.org, public-html-wg-issue-tracking@w3.org,
                    public-html@w3.org


Specification: http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec/
Multipage: http://www.whatwg.org/C#top
Complete: http://www.whatwg.org/c#top

Comment:
The footer element (Sections, Elements of HTML).

Request for clarification.

Re: Interaction of <blockquote> with the prohibition on nested <footer>s.

"When the footer element contains entire sections, they represent appendices,
indexes, long colophons, verbose license agreements, and other such content."

But I expect appendices or similar would often include <blockquote>s (or just
a plain <article>) which would want to include a <footer> to mark up
attribution, copyright information, etc.)

Given that the spec prohibits such nesting, I would like it to comment on
this.  Ideally it would suggest which semantic might be more important to mark
up explicitly.    I.e. is it more important to be able to mark up the
attributions with <footer>, or to mark appendices as <footer> material?

I think the implication is that it's _not_ particularly important to enclose
appendices using <footer> (and it should probably be avoided if there's a
chance of hitting this problem).  But a casual reader who was not initially
aware of the conflict could be left with the opposite impression.

Possibly the reference to appendices should be removed altogether.  The
examples regarding indexes and long license agreements are already quite
expressive.

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