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Re: HTML 5 (sic) and A11y

From: Steve Faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 13:38:05 +0000
Message-ID: <AANLkTi==4Vz0Fzj8UjCqvwJAxEgYhbJppqkPwUhYTJg9@mail.gmail.com>
To: Anne van Kesteren <annevk@opera.com>
Cc: Joshue O Connor <joshue.oconnor@cfit.ie>, HTML Accessibility Task Force <public-html-a11y@w3.org>, HTML WG <public-html@w3.org>
Hi Anne,

most of the fun parts of canvas are widely implemented and have been for a
while, the accessibility bits (focus ring/naviagble dom/ caret (maybe) are
not yet, the authoring advice does not take this into account, creating
disconnect for authors.


regards
stevef


On 24 January 2011 13:28, Anne van Kesteren <annevk@opera.com> wrote:

> On Mon, 24 Jan 2011 14:16:02 +0100, Steve Faulkner <
> faulkner.steve@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I think authoring conformance requrements are not served well by the
>> living standard  model, there is no certainty over the  rules that authors
>> should follow.
>> also including things that are half-baked (hgroup springs to mind) in a
>> standard can potentially mislead developers,  waste time thier time and
>> undermine the concept of web (authoring) standards.
>>
>> While the commit then review on an unversioned docuemnt may be a useful
>> method for the development of new features it does not follow that it is a
>> good method for the authoring practices that accompany features.
>> While the brower vendors may control what is implemented , they do not and
>> should not control the authoring conformance requirements associated with
>> imlementations.
>>
>
> How do you tell what is half-baked and what is ready though? <canvas> is
> maybe not ready, but people are using it. Should they have waited
> five-to-ten years until we figured it out more? What about XMLHttpRequest?
>
> How do you tell something is ready for authors? Was <style> ready for
> authors when HTML4 shipped? Per HTML4 its media="" attribute defaults to
> "screen", an ugly bug and never fixed. Is that better than being able to
> quickly fix such mistakes?
>
> Would we have known <hgroup> might not be the best approach if we had not
> exposed it to the web?
>
>
>
> --
> Anne van Kesteren
> http://annevankesteren.nl/
>



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with regards

Steve Faulkner
Technical Director - TPG

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