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Re: CfC: close ISSUE-125 charset-vs-quotes by amicable resolution

From: Julian Reschke <julian.reschke@gmx.de>
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 13:25:02 +0100
Message-ID: <4D3D6F9E.8040100@gmx.de>
To: Anne van Kesteren <annevk@opera.com>
CC: HTML WG <public-html@w3.org>, Sam Ruby <rubys@intertwingly.net>
On 24.01.2011 13:17, Anne van Kesteren wrote:
> On Mon, 24 Jan 2011 13:08:04 +0100, Julian Reschke
> <julian.reschke@gmx.de> wrote:
>> On 24.01.2011 12:56, Anne van Kesteren wrote:
>>> So if Ian changed the note -- as he indicates this actually has nothing
>>> to do with HTTP so that would probably be the right thing to do here --
>>> it would be okay with you?
>>
>> It would help; but I'd still object to mandate a behavior for no good
>> reason when IE doesn't do it.
>
> You think it makes more sense for everyone else to change their behavior?

In this case; yes, actually.

>>>> We can't change the HTTP syntax without breaking existing clients,
>>>> such as IE but likely many others.
>>>
>>> Currently the syntax breaks many clients as well. Probably including IE.
>>
>> Which syntax?
>
> The HTTP syntax. It cuts both ways. If clients are not compatible with
> IE, the HTTP syntax is not compatible with them either. And as you
> indicated yourself it is not clear that IE is fully conforming to it
> anyway. (Please note that this and below are a side argument from the
> above. The above is about <meta> which does not need to adhere to the
> HTTP syntax.)

I don't see how the syntax "breaks" any clients.

>>>> Furthermore, if people not testing in IE is a problem, then the right
>>>> solution is to converge on the (correct) behavior of IE.
>>>
>>> That is not how many of our design choices have been made to date.
>>
>> That may be a problem in itself.
>
> I think aligning with the majority of browsers when they do something
> reasonably sensible has worked quite well for us so far. Implementations
> are much more willing to change if they are the only one doing a certain
> thing; the other way around not so much.

It depends on what you want to align on, and what the negative effects 
of that alignment are.

Best regards, Julian
Received on Monday, 24 January 2011 12:25:38 GMT

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