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RE: An HTML5 logo

From: Dailey, David P. <david.dailey@sru.edu>
Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 12:29:50 -0500
To: Philippe Le Hegaret <plh@w3.org>, public-html <public-html@w3.org>
CC: Ian Jacobs <ij@w3.org>
Message-ID: <C64F09DF6833C44782B27844765560BC12986E163A@MSFEXCH01.srunet.sruad.edu>
I'm maybe the wrong audience for logos, since this one looks altogether too "superman-ish" (perhaps that is because of the darn sunburst effect emanating from the center in the first context I saw it in). 

On a more serious level, (imagining, for a moment, that I might be able to take logos seriously -- marketing, branding, and the like are all slightly foreign to me): the SVG code underlying the thing is a bit odd:

a) writing "HTML" as a series of four paths (e.g.:"H"= <path d="M108.382,0h23.077v22.8h21.11V0h23.078v69.044H152.57v-23.12h-21.11v23.12h-23.077V0z"/> ) seems rather counterintuitive.

b) SVG should be accessible; particularly, something of this sort: a logo after all. <desc> and <title> tags might help out in that regard. I prefer text to be text. Surely there must be a way for SVG to render text consistently across user agents!

c) do we really need so many digits of accuracy to draw an H-like shape? Integer arithmetic is so much more accessible.

d) the Illustrator cruft at the top of the file prevents it from rendering properly without reload in IE+ASV. 

e) we don't really need a <switch> do we? And what on earth is <g i:extraneous="self"> Check http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Quibik/Editing_SVG_files_manually for some tips on decrufting Illustrator output.

f) rendering a "5" as a series of four polygons, really is a bit inaccessible. I realize that the two on the left are meant to be darker than the other two, but that could be done with a mask based on the underlying content, which would make more sense semantically, que no? Of course if we did that then would could have a logo which doubles as an acid test, since some browsers don't render masks properly yet!

g) It is awfully rectilinear, but then in a way so is HTML5, so maybe that isn't a complaint. Perhaps if the thing were rendered as a rectangle with a non-affine transform applied (to warp the shape and the 5 with it) that would bring in the beauty of transforms in both CSS and SVG.

h) probably a few well placed <title> tags in the SVG would be enough to quiet my fussiness, but I'kk still think of poor Christopher Reeve every time I see it.

i) has WOFF once and for all been decided as preferable to SVG fonts?


cheers
David


-----Original Message-----
From: public-html-request@w3.org [mailto:public-html-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Philippe Le Hegaret
Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 8:03 AM
To: public-html
Cc: Ian Jacobs
Subject: An HTML5 logo

Dear HTML Working Group,

Today W3C introduced an HTML5 logo for public consideration: 
http://www.w3.org/News/2011#entry-8992


The W3C Communications Team is excited about the HTML5 logo, developed
with community support, and hopes it will help you promote your work.
The logo is intended to be a general purpose visual identity for HTML5
and other web application technologies. It doesn't imply conformance;
just "this is about open web application technologies."

This is not yet the official W3C Communications Team logo for HTML5. We
look forward to broad community adoption in order to make it so.

For more information about the logo, see the logo home page [1] and faq
[2].

Thank you,

Philippe Le H├ęgaret, Interaction Domain Lead

[1] http://www.w3.org/html/logo/

[2] http://www.w3.org/html/logo/faq




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