- From: Stephen Stewart <carisenda@gmail.com>
- Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 13:29:14 +0000
- To: Steve Faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com>
- Cc: HTMLWG WG <public-html@w3.org>, HTML Accessibility Task Force <public-html-a11y@w3.org>
On 2 February 2011 13:08, Steve Faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com> wrote: > I don't know how i can explain it better than i have already. > > when i look at a heading with a subheading, i don't see a single heading i > see 2 distinct pieces of information that are related. > > here is a real example (from > http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/multipage/): > > > <hgroup> > <h1>HTML</h1> > <h2>Living Standard - Last Updated 2 February 2011</h2> > </hgroup> > > the h1 is the title of the document, the h2 is a subtitle. > > becomes this > <h1> > <p>HTML</p> > <p>Living Standard - Last Updated 2 February 2011</p> > </h1> > > So when it gets reayed via an accessibility API there is no longer any > distinction between the title and subtitle. there is no longer any semantic > differentiation. That's probably not a good example for your point, it's a good one for mine though: the headline is "HTML Living Standard - Last Updated 2 February 2011" (but if you're just skimming, the important part is HTML). > yet another point is that placement does not infer what is the heading vs > subheading in the hgroup, its rank, yet there is no way to infer that from > as the h ranks are collapsed. > > <h1> > <p>HTML</p> > <p>Living Standard - Last Updated 2 February 2011</p> > </h1> > > is the same as > > <h1> > <p>Living Standard - Last Updated 2 February 2011</p> > <p>HTML</p> > </h1> > Er, no. Unless you are telling me that AT randomly jumbles order of paragraphs? -- Stephen Stewart carisenda@gmail.com
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