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Re: Call for a poll of the html wg on removal of hgroup was Re: review of hgroup element prior to last call.

From: Steve Faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 19:36:37 +0000
Message-ID: <AANLkTimVnkSX9GgbdNxWGcfQ6oX7Nn-8fsLm49a_oPRj@mail.gmail.com>
To: Maciej Stachowiak <mjs@apple.com>
Cc: John Foliot <jfoliot@stanford.edu>, Paul Cotton <Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com>, HTMLWG WG <public-html@w3.org>, Sam Ruby <rubys@intertwingly.net>
hi maciej,

>All I'm saying is that we do not intend to do anything special outside the
bounds of the usual process.

then a poll is a waste of time regardless of its outcome no chnage will
occur to the spec, as the only way to affect a change in the spec is via the
usual escalation process.

thanks for clarifying.


regards
stevef

On 1 February 2011 19:11, Maciej Stachowiak <mjs@apple.com> wrote:

>
> On Feb 1, 2011, at 11:08 AM, John Foliot wrote:
>
> > Steve Faulkner wrote:
> >
> >>> Since hgroup has been in the draft for a long
> >>> time with no significant changes, we are not going to treat this as a
> >>> post-cutoff change that reduces consensus.
> >>
> >> if there is broad agreement that the hgroup text should be removed how
> is
> >
> >> that reducing consensus?
> >>
> >>> If we have a poll on this topic, it will at best be advisory.
> >>> Since hgroup has been in the draft for a long
> >>> time with no significant changes, we are not going to treat this as a
> >>> post-cutoff change that reduces consensus.
> >>
> >> would have useful to know that the chairs will not allow the html
> working
> >
> >> group members to make any decisions of this nature in one of the earlier
> >> emails directed at the chairs on this issue.
> >
> > While I agree procedurally that this is more likely a post-Last Call
> issue
> > rather than a pre-Last Call issue, does it make it any less of an issue?
> > Conceptually, isn't Last Call the time to shake out these kinds of issues
> > and problems? Strikes me that before moving from Last Call to Candidate
> > Recommendation that this will need to be discussed and addressed, and
> > consensus formed around the issue no matter when in the actual process it
> > is done.
>
> That's definitely the case, and we intent to apply the decision policy as
> usual. If the bug report on this ends up escalated to a tracker issue, we
> will treat it as a Last Call issue.  All I'm saying is that we do not intend
> to do anything special outside the bounds of the usual process.
>
> Regards,
> Maciej
>
>


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