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Re: Objection to generator decision (Re: Working Group Decision on ISSUE-31 / ISSUE-80 validation survey)

From: Maciej Stachowiak <mjs@apple.com>
Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2011 16:33:32 -0700
Cc: Leif Halvard Silli <xn--mlform-iua@xn--mlform-iua.no>, HTMLWG WG <public-html@w3.org>
Message-id: <523E2B9B-977E-4C6B-9770-30D23FF00884@apple.com>
To: Laura Carlson <laura.lee.carlson@gmail.com>

On Apr 19, 2011, at 10:43 AM, Laura Carlson wrote:

> Hi Leif,
> 
> On 4/19/11, Leif Halvard Silli <xn--mlform-iua@xn--mlform-iua.no> wrote:
>> Maciej, and the other chairs,
> 
>>>> Was this list derived from the output
>>>> of actual authoring tools? Was it found by looking at real Web
>>>> content? In the absence of information about where this list came
>>>> from, it was taken to have no evidentiary value.
>> 
>> The list is much longer than the one Laura provided: Wordpress,
>> MediaWiki, Drupal, DocBook, TextPattern. TextMate, the famous Mac text
>> editor, is also able to save code as HTML - thus it generates, does it
>> therefore need an exception? TextMate also has various WYSWIWYG (like)
>> extension(s). SubEthaEdit can also save page as HTML. Other text
>> editors probably have similar features. Have these tools asked for
>> lower bars? Can't they speak for themselves if they need them? Does
>> JDiff, which also inserts generator string, need an exception?
>> 
>> The irony, considering the lowered validation bar: <meta
>> name="generator" content="HTML tidy">
>> 
>> All the above info has been found with http://code.Google.com and by
>> looking at the home pages of the different packaged and through
>> knowledge of the tools. It is simple to find more.
> 
> I used too used Google and also checked some local apps.
> 

In any future such lists, it would be useful to add explicit citations, preferably more specific than "do a Google search".

Regards,
Maciej
Received on Tuesday, 19 April 2011 23:34:11 GMT

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