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Re: example spec text for longdesc

From: Leif Halvard Silli <xn--mlform-iua@xn--mlform-iua.no>
Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2011 01:24:28 +0200
To: Steve Faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com>
Cc: Laura Carlson <laura.lee.carlson@gmail.com>, Matthew Turvey <mcturvey@gmail.com>, HTMLWG WG <public-html@w3.org>
Message-ID: <20110407012428976269.5333f884@xn--mlform-iua.no>
Steve Faulkner, Wed, 6 Apr 2011 22:11:15 +0100:
> Hi laura, 
> 
> "A very important requirement is to respect a web page's visual design
> and have no *forced* visual encumbrance. It should be some type of
> user choice.!"
> 
> the display and format of most html features are stylable using CSS
> what is the issue with having an indication of the presence of 
> longdesc as a default, which can then be styled away if required by 
> developers or users?

1) If most of the current @longdesc values are bogus, then perhaps that 
is one issue with it?

2) Howe about making that (default) display dependent on the kind of 
link inside @longdesc? Namely: the @longdesc should point to a 
#fragment on the current page or on another page. Thus, only links were 
there is a # as part of the URL, would show this signal that you have 
in mind. That way, we would at avoid mos the bogus @longdesk values out 
there. (It belongs to this idea that we should also suggest a markup 
format for long description texts.)

3) Could this be an icon - or whatever - that could be shared also with 
@cite? Meaning, that in case of nesting, there would be only one icon. 
Meaning, that the user must get the context menu to study what kind of 
information link that is meant? Again, this is more or less how iCab 
does it - except that the shared icons are found in the mouse pointer 
and not on the <img> and/or <blockquote>/<q> itself.

Example: While Anne is eating crocodile meat in Amazonas, I'll note 
that he - apparently in 2006 - added cool, clickable cite links on his 
blog. (May be outdated) description on top of page, and an example, for 
example here - note the arrow: 
http://annevankesteren.nl/2006/01/cite#comment-5075
(Also found this on Anne's site, but do not know whether it is 
relevant: 
http://annevankesteren.nl/test/examples/css/advanced/cite-attribute-clickable-in-opera.xhtml 
)
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leif halvard silli
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