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ISSUE-118 CP 2

From: Ian Hickson <ian@hixie.ch>
Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2010 06:14:53 +0000 (UTC)
To: public-html@w3.org
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.1011030543500.7799@ps20323.dreamhostps.com>

SUMMARY
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Simplify the incumbent rel="" model as a last-ditch effort to see if 
people would be interested in using it at all.


RATIONALE
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Much research has gone into this part of the specification (some of which 
is cited in the escalated bug). My conclusion as editor when studying this 
research was that the document structure rel="" values are a mess that 
nobody agrees on, implemented in such a small number of software packages 
and used by such a small fraction of users of those packages that it would 
be better to dramatically reduce the number of keywords, and then map 
legacy keywords to their closest synonyms, than to try to continue to 
support the huge number of existing keywords that are in use today.

I believe that the spec provides a more coherent model for moving forwards 
and converging existing implementations on a single model than would be 
achieved by implementing the proposals in the bugin the materials linked 
to from the bug, and in other CPs.

In actual use, I would guess that WordPress is amongst the biggest users 
of this feature. According to the table in the bug, as I understand it, 
WordPress uses "index" (and "start") as defined in HTML5. It doesn't have 
separate index and toc pages. Indeed none of the other CMSes listed use 
"index" at all. Plone and DotClear use "contents", but it's not clear if 
the distinction they make is especially good from a usability perspective.

The definitions as proposed in HTML5 intentionally disturb the status quo, 
but I believe that this is a worthwhile cost to try to make this feature 
useful.


DETAILS
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Change nothing.


POSITIVE EFFECTS
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If successful, this will make the feature more practical for users.


NEGATIVE EFFECTS
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None in practice, since the feature is so rarely used currently.


CONFORMANCE CLASS CHANGES
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None.


RISKS
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If this is unsuccessful, we would be wasting time trying to rearrange deck 
chairs on the Titanic.

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