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Re: Re-registration of text/html

From: Sam Ruby <rubys@intertwingly.net>
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 06:18:09 -0500
Message-ID: <4B9A22F1.1030107@intertwingly.net>
To: Maciej Stachowiak <mjs@apple.com>
CC: Leif Halvard Silli <xn--mlform-iua@xn--mlform-iua.no>, Henri Sivonen <hsivonen@iki.fi>, Julian Reschke <julian.reschke@gmx.de>, Ian Hickson <ian@hixie.ch>, HTMLwg <public-html@w3.org>
Maciej Stachowiak wrote:
> 
> Putting it in the spec would require a bunch of negotiation over the 
> exact set of rules and would likely lead to controversy no matter what 
> set of rules is picked. 

As co-chair: I don't believe that such a negotiation is out of bounds 
for this working group.  In particular, I don't believe that we are 
stuck with the set of rules that have been picked for us.  The set of 
rules are for the group to determine.

With co-chair hat off: I am not happy with the current set of rules. 
But if you like, we can start the discussion from the other side then. 
I would like to ask why the following is considered non-conforming:

   <a href="http://images.google.com/imghp?hl=en&tab=wi">

The above markup causes no interoperability problems.  This is a rule 
that is commonly, flagrantly, and willfully violated.  A number of 
similar examples can be found here:

   http://html5.validator.nu/?doc=http%3A%2F%2Fgoogle.com%2F

Removing all rules that cause no interoperability problems would also be 
an acceptable solution to me.

- Sam Ruby

P.S.  I have been thinking about issue 41.  General outline of something 
I planning to propose: prefixes must be registered, using a mechanism 
similar to the one we settle for issue 27.  xmlns:prefix attributes must 
match a registration.  Once registered, prefix:name values as element 
names and attribute values no longer trigger validation errors, but 
other than that have no meaning.  Yes, it means that those that wish to 
rid the world of the scourge of namespace inspired syntax will have to 
pursue their agenda via other means.  Yes, it also means that those that 
use such syntax can't directly use the DOM level 2 methods to interact 
with such. But I believe that by asking both sides to give just a little 
bit will enable us to move forward.
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