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Re: aside and figure elements

From: James Graham <jgraham@opera.com>
Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 10:05:29 +0200 (CEST)
To: Ian Hickson <ian@hixie.ch>
cc: Bruce Lawson <brucel@opera.com>, HTML WG <public-html@w3.org>, HTML Accessibility Task Force <public-html-a11y@w3.org>
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1006080947230.19550@sirius>


On Mon, 7 Jun 2010, Ian Hickson wrote:

> On Mon, 7 Jun 2010, Bruce Lawson wrote:
>>
>> <figure>
>> <img src=ceo.jpg alt="">
>> <figcaption>Brian Slick, CEO of Blammo Corp, leveraging a synergy</figcaption>
>> </figure>
>>
>> seems entirely accessible
>
> I would have said the opposite -- there's no alternative to the image
> provided, so it's entirely inaccessible.
>
> Here's an example of what I would have expected for this to be considered
> accessible:
>
> <figure>
>  <img src=ceo.jpg alt="Photograph: A tall man with brown hair, and a
>  moustache sits at a keyboard while smiling to the camera.">
>  <figcaption>Brian Slick, CEO of Blammo Corp, leveraging a synergy</figcaption>
> </figure>

I don't think talking about whether a particular <figure> is accessible on 
its own makes much sense. The meaningful question is whether a user can 
extract all the essential information from the page as a whole. In this 
case, the fact that the CEO is a tall male with brown hair and a 
moustache seems unlikely to be essential information. Without more 
context, however, it is impossible to tell if the caption alone is 
sufficient or if some other information must be provided in the alt text.
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