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RE: HTML WG F2F meeting

From: Ennals, Robert <robert.ennals@intel.com>
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 00:19:48 +0000
To: Ian Hickson <ian@hixie.ch>, Paul Cotton <Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com>
CC: "public-html@w3.org" <public-html@w3.org>, "Sam Ruby (rubys@intertwingly.net)" <rubys@intertwingly.net>, "Maciej Stachowiak (mjs@apple.com)" <mjs@apple.com>, "Philippe Le Hegaret (plh@w3.org)" <plh@w3.org>, "Michael(tm) Smith (mike@w3.org)" <mike@w3.org>
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[At the risk of bringing up an old debate]


I think it depends on what you want to do at an F2F.

I agree with Ian that a face to face meeting is typically a bad place to make decisions. You don't have the luxury of building up evidence and thinking about things, not everyone is there, and one can feel pressure to rush things.

OTOH I think a face to face meeting can be a great way to get a better understanding of who everyone is, what their world-view is, why they think what they do, etc, which can make it easier to resolve conflicts and make decisions on the mail lists later. I find that a quick one-on-one conversation with someone can tell me much more about what their position really is than a long public email discussion. 


If we do have an F2F then I'd recommend that we follow an unconference model, include plenty of unscheduled time, and have an understanding that no decisions be made during the F2F itself.


-Rob


> -----Original Message-----
> From: public-html-request@w3.org [mailto:public-html-request@w3.org] On
> Behalf Of Ian Hickson
> Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 2:46 PM
> To: Paul Cotton
> Cc: public-html@w3.org; Sam Ruby (rubys@intertwingly.net); Maciej
> Stachowiak (mjs@apple.com); Philippe Le Hegaret (plh@w3.org);
> Michael(tm) Smith (mike@w3.org)
> Subject: Re: HTML WG F2F meeting
> 
> On Tue, 26 Jan 2010, Paul Cotton wrote:
> >
> > The Chairs are interested in feedback on holding this kind of F2F
> > meeting.  We intend to discuss this at this week's WG meeting and
> then
> > to hold a straw poll to gauge interest and attendance levels.
> 
> I am strongly opposed to both F2F and telecon meetings, for reasons
> that
> have been discussed in depth in the past. I really do not believe there
> is
> any reason to do anything other than by e-mail, and in fact believe
> that
> formal face-to-face meetings can and usually do result in significantly
> worse results than considered discussion by e-mail.
> 
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