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Re: Request for group input on ISSUE-83 (figure and details captions)

From: Maciej Stachowiak <mjs@apple.com>
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2010 19:30:18 -0800
Cc: Aryeh Gregor <Simetrical+w3c@gmail.com>, Ian Hickson <ian@hixie.ch>, public-html <public-html@w3.org>, Bruce Lawson <brucel@opera.com>, Laura Carlson <laura.lee.carlson@gmail.com>, public-html-a11y@w3.org, Shelley Powers <shelley.just@gmail.com>
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To: Leif Halvard Silli <xn--mlform-iua@xn--mlform-iua.no>

On Jan 24, 2010, at 7:14 PM, Leif Halvard Silli wrote:

> 
> I personally also don't find <summary>/<dsummary> a good name as a 
> <details> caption. For example consider this example from the <table> 
> section in the draft [2] (where I replaced <dt> with summary :
> 
> <details><summary>Help</summary> [.. explanation ..]</details>
> 
> There is no summary here?! It is just a very short label/identifier. 
> (And as well: The draft only permits phrasing content inside the 
> <details> caption - whereas <summary> invites to a full explanation - I 
> certainly don't think of a summary as any shorter than a caption - on 
> the contrary!)

Examples like this make me think <dlabel> (or similar) would be better than <dsummary> or <summary>. It is true that the spec calls this portion the "summary", but the way this type of UI element is typically used, the short version is a label for the longer contents, not a summary of them. This is pretty obvious with the screenshot examples in the spec: <http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec/Overview.html#the-details-element>. "General", "Name & Extension" and "Preview" are not summaries of anything, they are labels.

Regards,
Maciej
Received on Monday, 25 January 2010 03:30:55 GMT

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