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Re: Browser implementations, prior to rec, used for justification

From: Julian Reschke <julian.reschke@gmx.de>
Date: Tue, 05 Jan 2010 19:34:57 +0100
Message-ID: <4B438651.4080609@gmx.de>
To: Jonas Sicking <jonas@sicking.cc>
CC: James Graham <jgraham@opera.com>, Shelley Powers <shelley.just@gmail.com>, Henri Sivonen <hsivonen@iki.fi>, "Michael A.Puls II" <shadow2531@gmail.com>, "Scheppe, Kai-Dietrich" <k.scheppe@telekom.de>, HTMLWG WG <public-html@w3.org>
Jonas Sicking wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 5:58 AM, Julian Reschke <julian.reschke@gmx.de> wrote:
>> James Graham wrote:
>>> On 05/01/10 14:31, Shelley Powers wrote:
>>>
>>>> And autobuffer is from which released specification, where we have to
>>>> worry about legacy use?
>>> Usage is a matter of quantifiable fact, not a matter of W3C Rec track
>>> status. If it is agreed that the legacy implied by released Firefox makes
>>> the attribute name "autobuffer" unsuitable to resuse at this time it is
>>> strictly irrelevant whether the legacy came from following a "released
>>> specification", proprietary invention, an unintended bug, or an amazingly
>>> improbable set of cosmic-ray induced bit flips on the build machine.
>> Agreed by whom?
>>
>> Firefox can be updated easily.
> 
> I'm surprised by your level of confidence here. What are you basing
> the above statement on?
> 
> What we can and can not put in a dot release is a very complicated
> matter. For example we are responsible towards distributors that have
> very conservative views on what is appropriate to put in a dot
> release. Our by far over reaching goal with dot releases is to make
> people more secure. If there's a risk that a behavioral change breaks
> even a small number of websites we risk that people choose not to
> install a dot release in order to keep their used websites working. We
> already have much bigger problems than we'd like to get people to
> upgrade to the latest dot release.
> 
> So unless you have talked to firefox people out of band about this
> specific issue, I would change the terminology from "firefox can" to
> "we should check if firefox can".

Well, it *is* being updated regularly.

Whether Mozilla chooses to push a HTML5 compliance issue fix into a dot 
release is of course up to Mozilla to decide, but *technically* it's not 
a problem, as far as I can tell.

Best regards, Julian
Received on Tuesday, 5 January 2010 18:35:39 GMT

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