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Re: ISSUE 30 @longdesc use cases

From: Jonas Sicking <jonas@sicking.cc>
Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 17:02:43 -0700
Message-ID: <AANLkTik_ezKtgC19V4CKJn=_FUYroUOn8+SkbCbPR=cY@mail.gmail.com>
To: Ian Hickson <ian@hixie.ch>
Cc: Joshue O Connor <joshue.oconnor@cfit.ie>, HTML Accessibility Task Force <public-html-a11y@w3.org>, HTML WG <public-html@w3.org>, W3C WAI-XTECH <wai-xtech@w3.org>, Barry McMullin <barry.mcmullin@dcu.ie>, Laura Carlson <laura.lee.carlson@gmail.com>
On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 4:55 PM, Ian Hickson <ian@hixie.ch> wrote:
> On Mon, 23 Aug 2010, Jonas Sicking wrote:
>> On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 4:14 PM, Ian Hickson <ian@hixie.ch> wrote:
>> > On Mon, 23 Aug 2010, Jonas Sicking wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > Elements that are not hidden should not link to or refer to elements
>> >> > that are hidden.
>> >>
>> >> This, however I don't agree with. Why should this not be permitted? What
>> >> problem is solved by forbidding this?
>> >
>> > It solves the problem of someone accidentally linking to a section that is
>> > hidden (which they obviously wouldn't do on purpose, since the hidden
>> > section is by definition irrelevant, so linking to it would be pointless),
>> > and then realising their mistake when the validator points it out.
>> >
>> > In your suggestion, the text is not irrelevant. It's very relevant.
>>
>> This is somewhat circular reasoning. You're saying that it's obviously
>> a mistake to link to inside a @hidden subtree because it's disallowed.
>
> No, I'm saying it's obviously a mistake to link to irrelevant content, and
> that content inside a block marked by a hidden="" attribute is by
> definition irrelevant.
>
> Then I'm saying it's not allowed, so as to help authors using validators
> to catch this mistake.

You still haven't answered the question what problem is solved by
defining @hidden this way. But I guess I'll just file a bug instead as
at least this discussion seems to have become circular :)

/ Jonas
Received on Tuesday, 24 August 2010 00:03:38 GMT

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