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Re: ISSUES 90, 91, 93, 96, 97 -- if you support these change proposals

From: Laura Carlson <laura.lee.carlson@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2010 05:08:57 -0500
Message-ID: <j2x1c8dbcaa1004300308o1bb299ffpc0aa78bb1ae54bc2@mail.gmail.com>
To: "Tab Atkins Jr." <jackalmage@gmail.com>
Cc: Shelley Powers <shelley.just@gmail.com>, HTMLWG WG <public-html@w3.org>
Hi Tab,

> For now, I've filed a bug to add a mapping for <details> and <summary>
> to the aria mapping table.
> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=9623

Thank you very much for filing this bug. I hope that the accessibility
task force decides to track it. The task force currently has 28 bugs
[1] that have no decision whether they will be accepted  as official
work items or not. I'll add this one to the list and include it in my
weekly bug report [2]. Hopefully the task force will decide on
criteria for accepting bugs at some point. [3]

However, the main point is that the accessibility task force has
declared that they will make these elements better [4].  I don't see
any issues or actions is in the Accessibility Task Force's own tracker
[5] to insure that <figure>, <aside>, <hidden>, <progress>, and
<meter> are all made better.

The task force should sign off on each element saying,

* Yes, <figure> has our stamp of approval. We fully endorse it. It is
accessible and good to go.
* Yes, <aside> has our stamp of approval. We fully endorse it. It is
accessible and good to go.
* Yes, <hidden> has our stamp of approval. We fully endorse it. It is
accessible and good to go.
* Yes <progress> has our stamp of approval. We fully endorse it. It is
accessible and good to go.
* Yes, <meter> has our stamp of approval. We fully endorse it. It is
accessible and good to go.

>> Another thing that is worrisome is using JavaScript to patch a native
>> element which is supposed to be a solution for not having to write
>> JavaScript.
>> http://mathiasbynens.be/notes/html5-details-jquery
>
> I don't understand this objection, Laura.

> This is an interim helper while browsers still exist that don't
> implement <details> (which is all of them right now

That's the point...interim helpers are needed. When will they not be needed?

Best Regards,
Laura

[1] http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/Bugs#A11yTF_Keyword
[2] http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/Bugs/Weekly_Resolved_and_Rejected_Bugs_Reports
[3] http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/Bugs/KeywordCriteria
[4] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2010Apr/0183.html
[5] http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/track/

-- 
Laura L. Carlson
Received on Friday, 30 April 2010 10:09:30 UTC

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