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Re: Timed tracks

From: Philip Jägenstedt <philipj@opera.com>
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 14:05:25 +0800
To: "Tab Atkins Jr." <jackalmage@gmail.com>, "Maciej Stachowiak" <mjs@apple.com>
Cc: "John Foliot" <jfoliot@stanford.edu>, "Boris Zbarsky" <bzbarsky@mit.edu>, public-html@w3.org
Message-ID: <op.vblpvbenatwj1d@philip-pc.oslo.osa>
On Fri, 23 Apr 2010 13:23:19 +0800, Maciej Stachowiak <mjs@apple.com>  

> On Apr 22, 2010, at 10:20 PM, Tab Atkins Jr. wrote:
>> On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 10:04 PM, John Foliot <jfoliot@stanford.edu>  
>> wrote:
>>> Boris Zbarsky wrote:
>>>> On 4/23/10 12:25 AM, John Foliot wrote:
>>>>> As well, from experience this type of post-production is often  
>>>>> outside the
>>>>> capacity of smaller and non-professional video producers, which  
>>>>> raises the
>>>>> bar of entry.
>>>> Honestly, I'm quite happy with a high bar of entry to what Sean was
>>>> saying he wants to do!  I just wish people didn't want to do it to
>>>> start with.
>>> No, I want anyone to be able to easily create and caption videos with
>>> minimal effort - raising the bar simply reduces the output. I'm happy
>>> (excited!) that people want to do it right away.
>> You're misunderstanding exactly what Boris is referring to when he
>> talks about what Sean is wanting to do.
>> Sean wants to set up a barrier between captions and the page, so that
>> the video/caption author's intent can't be "subverted" by the page
>> author.  Two different authors in question here.
>> Boris is happy for it to be hard for the video author to set up such a
>> barrier, as it's unnecessary and reduces the page author's ability to
>> innovate for little reason.  I think we can safely assume that he
>> wants a low barrier of entry for captioning itself.  ^_^
> We probably do need the barrier in the cross-origin case, at least by  
> default. (I could imagine letting servers expose their captions cross- 
> origin through something like CORS).

Surely they could always rendered, but any access via whatever APIs we  
have should be protected by the cross-origin policy. This is similar to  
<video> itself.

Philip Jägenstedt
Core Developer
Opera Software
Received on Friday, 23 April 2010 06:06:18 UTC

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