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Re: looking for the use case for HTML->Atom conversion

From: Tantek Celik <tantek@cs.stanford.edu>
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 16:48:33 +0000
Message-ID: <234702146-1271350102-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-116778917-@bda088.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>
To: "Maciej Stachowiak" <mjs@apple.com>,"Edward O'Connor" <hober0@gmail.com>
Cc: "public-html@w3.org WG" <public-html@w3.org>
Maciej asked:

>Would using hAtom be a viable option for you, as the second tool apparently does already?

For me yes, and this is what I'm doing/developing with my site currently.

In my opinion HTML5+hAtom satisfies the "generate an Atom feed from semantic HTML" use case, and it is not necessary to require that the HTML5 spec itself have to specify a ("complete" or otherwise) heuristic or algorithm for generating Atom.

I think it is fine (and good) for HTML5 to note which of its elements/attributes may (or even should per 2119) be used for extracting *some* Atom *semantics*, so that algorithms that make use of HTML5, e.g. as part of an HTML5+hAtom conversion, can reference and be based on those portions of the HTML5 spec.

Thanks,

Tantek

P.S. Those who are interested in the  "generate an Atom feed from semantic HTML" use-case are encouraged to provide feedback etc on the hAtom issues page and the microformats-discuss mailing list:

http://microformats.org/wiki/hatom-issues




-----Original Message-----
From: Maciej Stachowiak <mjs@apple.com>
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 09:33:43 
To: Edward O'Connor<hober0@gmail.com>
Cc: Julian Reschke<julian.reschke@gmx.de>; Sam Ruby<rubys@intertwingly.net>; public-html@w3.org WG<public-html@w3.org>
Subject: Re: looking for the use case for HTML->Atom conversion


On Apr 15, 2010, at 9:27 AM, Edward O'Connor wrote:

>>> It's a feature I really want. I'd like to simply publish semantic  
>>> HTML
>>> and have software produce whatever other formats I need from the  
>>> HTML
>>> that I write.
>>
>> Clarifying: your software (at time of publication), or the consumer's
>> software?
>
> Neither. A third party, like H2VX or hAtom2Atom:
>
> http://h2vx.com/

> http://lukearno.com/projects/hatom2atom/


Would using hAtom be a viable option for you, as the second tool  
apparently does already? hAtom puts some annotations in the HTML file  
that allow it to guarantee that entry ids are preserved across the  
translation. So it can't give useful output from just a plain HTML  
file, but it can guarantee to satisfy the Atom requirements.

Regards,
Maciej


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