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Re: change proposal for issue-86, was: ISSUE-86 - atom-id-stability - Chairs Solicit Proposals

From: Shelley Powers <shelley.just@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 09:28:03 -0500
Message-ID: <p2r643cc0271004150728g5a84db5fh8cdd13083b780a1@mail.gmail.com>
To: Julian Reschke <julian.reschke@gmx.de>
Cc: Sam Ruby <rubys@intertwingly.net>, Ian Hickson <ian@hixie.ch>, "public-html@w3.org WG" <public-html@w3.org>
On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 3:45 AM, Julian Reschke <julian.reschke@gmx.de> wrote:
> On 14.04.2010 23:09, Sam Ruby wrote:
>>
>> ...
>> Speaking only as a member of the Atom community: the notion of defining
>> one not only seems harmless, it actually is (mildly) appealing. That
>> being said, what is currently in the draft specification is actively
>> harmful. It is my hope that any browser vendor strongly consider the
>> input of the Atom community before implementing what is currently spec'ed.
>>
>>> In which case I recommend that you seek the feedback of the Atom
>>> community, and fix potential bugs in the spec (such as thise described
>>> in my first change proposal, but there may be more).
>>
>> If there is a consensus to fix these and other bugs, then I would
>> support an Atom mapping remaining in the W3C HTML5 spec.
>> ...
>
> In that case, I'd really like to see a discussion on the questions below:
>
> - What is the use case? News sources that don't want to publish separate
> feeds? If they do already, what is the problem with that? Why would they
> want to stop?
>
> - Who is supposed to implement this? Browsers? Feed readers? (are they
> supposed to start consuming HTML5 in *addition* to the various things called
> "RSS" and Atom?)
>
> - Why does this need to be part of HTML5? Why does this need to be a W3C
> activity anyway?
>
> - What are potential alternatives? RDFa, Microformats (hAtom) and Microdata
> come to mind.
>
> So yes, having a bijective mapping between a certain subset of HTML and
> another subset Atom is an interesting thing to think of, but it's totally
> *not* clear whether it's something that needs to be done here.
>
> Best regards, Julian
>
>

These questions should be answered before we delve deeply into the
minutia related to how to correctly parse an Atom feed.

Shelley
Received on Thursday, 15 April 2010 14:28:36 UTC

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