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Re: Null change proposal for ISSUE-88 (mark II)

From: Sam Ruby <rubys@intertwingly.net>
Date: Sat, 03 Apr 2010 10:14:00 -0400
Message-ID: <4BB74D28.9030807@intertwingly.net>
To: Anne van Kesteren <annevk@opera.com>
CC: Kornel Lesinski <kornel@geekhood.net>, Julian Reschke <julian.reschke@gmx.de>, public-html@w3.org
On 04/03/2010 06:34 PM, Anne van Kesteren wrote:
> On Sat, 03 Apr 2010 02:00:32 -0700, Julian Reschke
> <julian.reschke@gmx.de> wrote:
>> The attribute is an HTML attribute, but it's value space is defined by
>> the HTTP header registry.
>>
>> Changing this in general *will* cause objections (yes, those).
>
> Please stop the drama. In the ten years it was deployed it was never
> implemented as HTML4 specified. No wonder its semantics are being
> changed to match reality.

+1 to less drama.  The way to effect change is to start with bug reports.

As to whether or not the current semantics reflect reality, I'm not yet 
personally convinced.  I suggest the following as staring points for 
people who wish to explore this area further:

 
http://intertwingly.net/stories/2010/03/21/www.yahoo.co.jp#extensibility_meta
   http://intertwingly.net/stories/2010/03/21/www.w3.org#extensibility_meta
 
http://intertwingly.net/stories/2010/03/21/www.twitter.com#extensibility_meta
 
http://intertwingly.net/stories/2010/03/21/www.sina.com.cn#extensibility_meta
   http://intertwingly.net/stories/2010/03/21/www.qq.com#extensibility_meta
 
http://intertwingly.net/stories/2010/03/21/www.nytimes.com#extensibility_meta
 
http://intertwingly.net/stories/2010/03/21/www.myspace.com#extensibility_meta
   http://intertwingly.net/stories/2010/03/21/www.msn.com#extensibility_meta
 
http://intertwingly.net/stories/2010/03/21/www.microsoft.com#extensibility_meta
 
http://intertwingly.net/stories/2010/03/21/www.linkedin.com#extensibility_meta
   http://intertwingly.net/stories/2010/03/21/www.ibm.com#extensibility_meta
 
http://intertwingly.net/stories/2010/03/21/www.facebook.com#extensibility_meta
 
http://intertwingly.net/stories/2010/03/21/www.apple.com#extensibility_meta

I'll start with:

   http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=9396

Depending on how that one fares, I may proceed onto Dublin Core Meta tags:

   http://dublincore.org/documents/dc-html/

... both are seen on IBM's site.

- Sam Ruby
Received on Saturday, 3 April 2010 14:14:57 UTC

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