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Re: what is dt?

From: Leif Halvard Silli <xn--mlform-iua@xn--mlform-iua.no>
Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 02:51:41 +0200
Message-ID: <4AB2D99D.8010202@xn--mlform-iua.no>
To: Jeremy Keith <jeremy@adactio.com>
CC: "Tab Atkins Jr." <jackalmage@gmail.com>, Maciej Stachowiak <mjs@apple.com>, Shelley Powers <shelleyp@burningbird.net>, Smylers@stripey.com, public-html@w3.org
Jeremy Keith On 09-09-18 01.12:

> Tab Atkins Jr. wrote:
>> While default styling is a bit of an issue, I'm not sure how using
>> <h1> would interfere with the outline algorithm.  <figure> is
>> explicitly a sectioning root

> In that case, using <h*> seems like it could be a reasonable  
> captioning element for <figure>.

Please note that the section root thing *already* is there to 
allow authors to insert texts containing exactly h1-h6. But it 
isn't there to allow you to use h1-h6 as a caption. If you allow 
h1-h6 to be used as caption, then h1-h6 would get dual functions 
when used within a figure element.

> <figure>
> <h1>Exhibit A</h1>
> <img src="foo" alt="bar">
> </figure>

To illustrate my point, we could end up with this:

<h1>Exhibit A</h1>
<div><h1>Madonna and child</h1>
<img src="foo" alt="bar">

Another "fun" effect: What if the <h1> would be the very last 
element? (<figure> allow the caption as last element.)

The point with the caption of <figure> is, as much as I gather, to 
have label that you put on the content _in this context_.

Using <dt><dd>, it is easy to separate the label of the figure 
from labels/headings inside the figure _content_:

<dt>Exhibit A</dt>
<dd><h1>Madonna and child</h1>
<img src="foo" alt="bar">

Hence, I don't consider h1-h6 viable. <dt><dd> is better, then.

Another problem: The h1-h6 we have today are supposed to contain 
rather short titles that can be displayed in an outline. Suddenly, 
however, when h1-h6 is used as caption, that rule can not not 
apply. (Note the development of the content model of <caption> - 
see the draft.)
leif halvard silli
Received on Friday, 18 September 2009 00:52:26 UTC

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