W3C home > Mailing lists > Public > public-html@w3.org > September 2009

Re: what is dt?

From: Leif Halvard Silli <xn--mlform-iua@xn--mlform-iua.no>
Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 18:47:05 +0200
Message-ID: <4AB26809.8020507@xn--mlform-iua.no>
To: Shelley Powers <shelleyp@burningbird.net>
CC: Laura Carlson <laura.lee.carlson@gmail.com>, Simon Pieters <simonp@opera.com>, Lars Gunther <gunther@keryx.se>, Leif Halvard Silli <lhs@malform.no>, public-html@w3.org
Shelley Powers On 09-09-17 17.11:

> Laura Carlson wrote:
>> On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 9:13 AM, Simon Pieters wrote:
>>> On Thu, 17 Sep 2009 15:26:47 +0200, Shelley Powers:
>>>> Laura Carlson wrote:


>>>>> What about using a <summary> as a generalized element with <details>
>>>>> etc. Leif mentioned  this previously.
>>>>> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-archive/2009Jun/0045.html
>>>>>         
>>>> This strikes me as an interesting proposal, and when it comes to Figure,
>>>> has been proposed by others[1]. The rejection of the idea, because of how
>>>> browsers currently implement the DOM for HTML4 puzzles me, since we're
>>>> changing the DOM for HTML5, anyway.
>>>>       
>>> <summary> would be no problem in <figure> and <details> as far as parsing
>>> goes. In <table>, however, it would be a problem because in legacy browsers
>>> the element would be moved outside the <table> in the DOM.
>>>     
>> Maybe start thinking about a new generic term?
>> <synopsis>, <abstract>, <precis> come to mind. Others?


> I think if we all agree that whatever the element is, in plain English 
> it acts as a "caption" (regardless of caption's use elsewhere), we could 
> refer to a Thesaurus as an adviser of what would be a good term. [1]
> 
> Unfortunately, label and legend appear, but so does inscription, which 
> has possibilities.

Another word: <context>

<figure><context> caption text </context>
         -- the figure content --
</figure>

This proposal is derived form my analysis of <dt>  as a _term and 
context description_ (see my notes about how to use <dl> for dialogs.)

But it is a bit unclear if we talk about a summary element or a 
captioning element.
-- 
leif halvard
Received on Thursday, 17 September 2009 16:47:50 UTC

This archive was generated by hypermail 2.3.1 : Monday, 29 September 2014 09:39:08 UTC