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Re: [html] Summary draft

From: Maciej Stachowiak <mjs@apple.com>
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 19:34:15 -0700
Cc: 'Ian Hickson' <ian@hixie.ch>, 'Cynthia Shelly' <cyns@exchange.microsoft.com>, public-html@w3.org
Message-id: <6CAECF00-D35B-4BEA-9133-878DAEA9A1F6@apple.com>
To: John Foliot <jfoliot@stanford.edu>

Just for the record:

On Sep 14, 2009, at 6:33 PM, John Foliot wrote:

> We already know that *you* think that it is never appropriate to use  
> @summary, and
> your opinion is duly and publicly noted.  However, the 'consensus'
> position is that it has both a use and appropriateness that goes  
> beyond
> your opinion.

We haven't assessed a Working Group consensus on the appropriate uses  
for summary. It's clear to me from observation that opinions vary (and  
it's not a case of Ian vs. everyone else).


>
>> It is difficult to evaluate proposals without understanding what
>> problems they are trying to solve.
>
> <problem>THE PROBLEM IS THAT MANY PEOPLE DISAGREE WITH THE TEXT YOU  
> HAVE
> INSERTED INTO THE SPECIFICATION.</problem>
>
> It is text that has been authored by one person (you), as opposed to a
> draft text, which Cynthia has floated, that has been authored by and
> commented upon by many people, and more closely reflects the consensus
> position of the communities affected.

It's not clear at this time whether Cynthia's text reflects consensus  
of the HTML Working Group. It does seem clear to me that a number of  
people like Cynthia's text better than Ian's, and vice versa.


Overall comment: John, please recall that you personally signed off on  
the text that is currently in the Editor's Draft. You are free to  
change your mind, and express a preference for different text. But I  
suggest that you dial down the outrage over text that you at one time  
personally reviewed and approved. How about a little less all-caps and  
"one person" rhetoric? (I do appreciate your work to more clearly  
express the issues and file bugs.)

Regards,
Maciej
Received on Tuesday, 15 September 2009 02:34:57 UTC

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