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Re: Proposal to publish HTML5 and vocab specs

From: Sam Ruby <rubys@intertwingly.net>
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 22:12:23 -0400
Message-ID: <4AE7A887.9050103@intertwingly.net>
To: Jirka Kosek <jirka@kosek.cz>
CC: Ian Hickson <ian@hixie.ch>, public-html@w3.org
Jirka Kosek wrote:
> Ian Hickson wrote:
> 
>> Note that the WHATWG announced earlier today, after reaching zero 
>> outstanding issues, that HTML5 was now at Last Call at the WHATWG. 
> 
> By "zero outstanding issues" you mean "zero outstanding issues from
> WHATWG point of view"?

It is still a significant milestone, whatever it is called, and even if 
the W3C doesn't officially recognize it.  For a brief moment, we had a 
document with at least a consensus of 1.  It may have been brief as bug 
reports continue to come in.  It may have been something that more than 
one person completely agreed with.  It definitely is something that a 
number of people have at most small issues with.  And yes, there still 
are people who haven't had their issues resolved to their satisfaction.

But it still is a milestone nevertheless.  And one we can build upon. 
More people will become satisfied, and at some point, hopefully soon, we 
will have W3C Consensus, which will be another milestone.

> Personally, I don't think that it was good idea to publish spec as
> WHATWG last call when it is not ready to go to last call in W3C -- this
> will greatly confuse people. At the end of you blog entry you wrote
> "...HTML5 is a joint effort of W3C and WHATWG groups..." -- I would
> expect that in joint effort groups are working closely together and that
> they synchronize their publication/review cycles as much as possible in
> order to not confuse people.

I don't understand.  I would think that having a document published with 
a date at or beyond the WHATWG Last Call that clearly and unambiguously 
states the W3C state of affairs would reduce rather than increase confusion.

> Have a nice day,
> 
> 				Jirka

- Sam Ruby
Received on Wednesday, 28 October 2009 02:12:56 UTC

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