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Re: ISSUE-41/ACTION-97 decentralized-extensibility

From: Shelley Powers <shelleyp@burningbird.net>
Date: Mon, 05 Oct 2009 12:33:08 -0500
Message-ID: <4ACA2DD4.40503@burningbird.net>
To: Henri Sivonen <hsivonen@iki.fi>
CC: "public-html@w3.org WG" <public-html@w3.org>, Adrian Bateman <adrianba@microsoft.com>, Sam Ruby <rubys@intertwingly.net>
Henri Sivonen wrote:
> On Oct 5, 2009, at 16:06, Shelley Powers wrote:
>>> I see. Are existing JS libraries operating on SVG trees in existing 
>>> Web content using namespaced attributes and elements in way that 
>>> data-* attributes don't address?
>>>
>>
>> So let me get this straight: you're expecting that when a person 
>> copies and pastes a SVG file into HTML5, they will go through the SVG 
>> and for every namespaced attribute, they will replace it with a 
>> data-* attribute?  And what are they supposed to do with the 
>> namespaced elements?
>>
>> Do I understand you correctly? Is this your proposal?
>
> It's not a proposal. It's a question. The purpose of the question is 
> to understand if namespaced attributes have some important technical 
> characteristics (when network effects are ignored) that data-* 
> attributes don't have.

OK, I understand what you're saying.
>
>>>> I tried to explain some uses and interests in distributed 
>>>> extensibility above. Let me know if these weren't sufficient.
>>>>
>>>> I believe that Tony also referenced a view of distributed 
>>>> (decentralized) extensibility, as well as some possible use cases.
>>>
>>> I'm interested in seeing a definition of what "decentralized 
>>> extensibility" so that alternative proposals can be tested against 
>>> the definition to determine if they constitute "decentralized 
>>> extensibility". (I guess it wouldn't be unexpected if you, Tony and 
>>> Sam came up with different definitions, although so far Sam seems to 
>>> be avoiding writing down a definition even when asked.)
>>>
>>> Currently, the WG lacks a definition against which to assess if e.g. 
>>> the naming scheme Jonas mentioned (<org_example_foo>) would be 
>>> "decentralized extensibility".
>>
>> I believe I have answered the question, and I think others have also. 
>> I'm not sure how else to answer it, though, so that it meets your 
>> criteria for a definition.
>
> Sorry for appearing dense, but I have missed your answer. Could you 
> please point me to it?
>

OK, I'll see if I can put something together for you.

Shelley
Received on Monday, 5 October 2009 17:33:49 GMT

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