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Re: Auto-detect and encodings in HTML5

From: Henri Sivonen <hsivonen@iki.fi>
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 11:53:54 +0300
Cc: "'M.T.Carrasco Benitez'" <mtcarrascob@yahoo.com>, "'Travis Leithead'" <Travis.Leithead@microsoft.com>, "'Erik van der Poel'" <erikv@google.com>, <public-html@w3.org>, <www-international@w3.org>, "'Richard Ishida'" <ishida@w3.org>, "'Ian Hickson'" <ian@hixie.ch>, "'Chris Wilson'" <Chris.Wilson@microsoft.com>, "'Harley Rosnow'" <Harley.Rosnow@microsoft.com>
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To: "Jonathan Rosenne" <rosennej@qsm.co.il>
On Jun 1, 2009, at 11:08, Jonathan Rosenne wrote:

> Not only CJK and Cyrillic, also Hebrew and

I had thought that existing Hebrew content largely didn't have the  
problem of lacking encoding labels. (Isn't even the most legacy Visual  
Hebrew content generally *encoding*-labeled even if not *direction*- 

I observe that existing heuristic detectors don't tend to support  
Hebrew encodings. This suggests that either content is generally  
labeled or there's one dominant encoding (which one? Windows-1255?),  
since developing heuristic detection wasn't necessary to break into  
the Hebrew browsing market.

How bad is breakage if a non-Hebrew encoding default is in effect and  
the user browses the Hebrew part of the Web?

> I suppose many other non-Latin languages.

There are also Latin non-Windows-1252 encodings, but it doesn't  
automatically follow that there's a serious legacy of unlabeled  
content in every legacy encoding. (Serious meaning: Users would reject  
a browser that didn't allow them to set a locale-specific last-resort  
encoding or that didn't tie a locale-specific last-resort encoding to  
the UI language.)

Henri Sivonen
Received on Monday, 1 June 2009 08:54:37 UTC

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