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Re: summary="" in HTML5 ISSUE-32

From: Steven Faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 11:43:34 +0000
Message-ID: <55687cf80902260343i17208070v595dcbf5e1a1975e@mail.gmail.com>
To: Simon Pieters <simonp@opera.com>
Cc: David Poehlman <poehlman1@comcast.net>, Ian Hickson <ian@hixie.ch>, HTMLWG <public-html@w3.org>, "W3C WAI Protocols & Formats" <w3c-wai-pf@w3.org>
Hi Simon,
would it also be too problematic for browsers to implement a heuristic
that only displayed summary attributes that are on tables that include
th?

that would weed out 99.9% of the pages from philips sample i suggest.

regards
steve

2009/2/26 Steven Faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com>:
> Thanks Simon,
>
> "Now I just need a list of random pages that use summary... Ah, here
> we go: http://canvex.lazyilluminati.com/survey/2007-07-17/analyse.cgi/tagattr/table/summary"
>
> That is not a sample of random pages that use summary...
>
> regards
> stevef
>
> 2009/2/26 Simon Pieters <simonp@opera.com>:
>> On Thu, 26 Feb 2009 12:15:54 +0100, Steven Faulkner
>> <faulkner.steve@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Another point to consider is that even if HTML5 included a visible
>>> @summary, it should not mean that browsers should make the @summary
>>> visible in HTML 4
>>
>> Yes it would. Browsers use the same code path for HTML5 as for HTML4
>> content. At best you could make summary="" visible in standards mode but not
>> in quirks mode, but I'd bet that would still "break" too many pages for
>> browser vendords to be able to do (and we generally don't want to add more
>> differences between the modes anyway). I've added
>>
>>  table:before { content:attr(summary); display:table-caption }
>>
>> to my user style sheet to see what it looks like. Now I just need a list of
>> random pages that use summary... Ah, here we go:
>> http://canvex.lazyilluminati.com/survey/2007-07-17/analyse.cgi/tagattr/table/summary
>>
>>
>>> (or any non HTML 5 pages) pages as that would
>>> contradict the HTML 4 spec would it not?
>>
>> Right, it would contradict HTML4.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Simon Pieters
>> Opera Software
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> with regards
>
> Steve Faulkner
> Technical Director - TPG Europe
> Director - Web Accessibility Tools Consortium
>
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