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Re: WG comments, Working Drafts, and Last Call -- clarification please?

From: Steven Faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 19:32:28 +0100
Message-ID: <55687cf80908061132k818e9bavf0e462a9ec40b539@mail.gmail.com>
To: Lachlan Hunt <lachlan.hunt@lachy.id.au>
Cc: Shelley Powers <shelley.just@gmail.com>, HTMLWG WG <public-html@w3.org>
hi lachlan,
>No, who claimed that?  Anyone can comment at any time.
from todays meeting irc [1]
[DanC](FYI, last call comments shouldn't come from WG members; last call is
a decision that the WG is done handling its own issues/comments.)

16:55:35 [DanC]LC comments from WG members are out of order/non-sensical. LC
is a decision that the WG is done. For a WG member to then send a comment
doesn't make sense.[1][1]http://www.w3.org/2009/08/06-html-wg-irc

regards
steve

2009/8/6 Lachlan Hunt <lachlan.hunt@lachy.id.au>

> Shelley Powers wrote:
>
>> Questions of clarification:
>>
>> Do we still have discussion when it comes to publishing a Working
>> Draft, regardless of who publishes it?
>>
>
> I raised this issue in the telcon because I don't beleive we should ever
> let procedural issues, like publishing a Working Draft for a heartbeat
> requirement, get tied up in a discussion about a technical issue, like we've
> done with the summary issue.
>
>  Do we need consensus, or are all Working Drafts being published,
>> unless someone actively protests?
>>
>
> As has been mentioned already, per W3C process, Working Drafts explicitly
> do not require consensus of the group to be published, so we should just let
> them be published at any time without debate.  (It was pointed out in the
> telcon that this should not apply to FPWD for various reasons, including
> patent review period issues).
>
> Had we simply published the draft as soon as the heartbeat requirement was
> pointed out, then 2 weeks worth of bickering could have been significantly
> reduced.
>
> Personally, I think it's absurd that even though Sam knew this (as he
> mentioned it), he still decided to bother seeking out consensus on the
> publication of a Working Draft, rather than simply publishing it and letting
> us get on with discussing the technical issues independently.
>
>  If someone publishes a Working Draft with many differences, can we
>> discuss each, or is it a case of all or nothing?
>>
>
> I don't understand the question.
>
>  Is it true that the Working Group can't comment during Last Call? That
>> we have to raise issues before then?
>>
>
> No, who claimed that?  Anyone can comment at any time.
>
> --
> Lachlan Hunt - Opera Software
> http://lachy.id.au/
> http://www.opera.com/
>
>


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