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Re: several messages

From: Ian Hickson <ian@hixie.ch>
Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 10:09:55 +0000 (UTC)
To: Henri Sivonen <hsivonen@iki.fi>, Smylers <Smylers@stripey.com>
Cc: Jirka Kosek <jirka@kosek.cz>, HTML WG <public-html@w3.org>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.62.0809020949180.20254@hixie.dreamhostps.com>

On Fri, 29 Aug 2008, Henri Sivonen wrote:
> On Aug 28, 2008, at 17:38, Jirka Kosek wrote:
> Now, considering what I said about wasting people's time being bad, it's 
> bad to waste XSLT programmers' time too. I'd be OK with syntax that 
> solves the problem of wasting their time in a way that is unlikely to 
> spill outside the XSLT space and waste other people's time (by pundits 
> telling them not to write simply <!DOCTYPE html>).
> I'd be OK with <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "XSLT-compat">, since it reflects 
> the problem it is solving--making the string resistant to bogus 
> rationalizations about its purpose.

On Fri, 29 Aug 2008, Smylers wrote:
> Michael(tm) Smith writes:
> > 
> >   - Instead of "XSLT-compat" or some other arbitrary string, why
> >     not just require that it just be the empty string? ... we would
> >     want the value to be empty, not some standard value that would
> >     become a de facto public ID and that apps would lead to the same
> >     very real "bogus rationalizations about its purpose" problem that
> >     Henri describes.
> I'd've thought exactly the opposite: "XSLT-compat" is somewhat 
> self-documenting, indicating that this is XSLT-compatible HTML.  
> Whereas "PUBLIC ''" is a cryptic bit of boilerplate with no obvious 
> purpse -- which could therefore lead to the fears Henri mentioned, of 
> people thinking it's needed for reasons other than XSLT compatibility 
> and including it unnecessarily.

Based on the above feedback, I've allowed "XSLT-generated" as a string in 

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